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BlueOval Ralph 10-07-2010 10:28 AM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
just bring in a rear wheel dyno to the track.

Grand Am does this also checking the DP, GT and show room stockers also.

Bill Grubbs 10-07-2010 11:06 AM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
Great idea. However, it is so easy to fool a dyno...not even funny! Even if you impound the car. All you need is to know there is a possibility of a dyno at the end of a run, and think outside the box.

Peter Ash 10-07-2010 12:15 PM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Grubbs (Post 215204)
Great idea. However, it is so easy to fool a dyno...not even funny! Even if you impound the car. All you need is to know there is a possibility of a dyno at the end of a run, and think outside the box.


F1/enter = minus ???hp of choice, lol

Jeff Teuton 10-07-2010 01:30 PM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
Speed up the old cars, lower the hp 2%, 3.25% or pick a number, give them some new parts (pure stock left long ago). Now the guy that runs .1 under the index car go .3 under. He ain't interested in goin to the top anyway. The vast (right wing conspiracy) number don't ever intend to go to the top. And this will give the Internet Racers, and the NoCAR racers something else to talk about. Another quote that comes to mind is from the famous (infamous) Chuck Rayburn 'If you aint within .3 of the fast guy, you don't vote'. Now that's ASDF JKLsemicolon if you never had formal keyboard training.

Jack McCarthy 10-07-2010 01:43 PM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
i do believe charleybob would have a different point of view if he was not racing a new CJ... and if it was up to his daddy he'd be driving the tractor on the farm !!

a new set of heads up FX classes would be an easy fix, attract more attention to the manufacturers and stock eliminator... BUT the manufacturers might not agree and thier $$$$ is what this is all about.

NHRA will not intervene unless the $$$$ money agrees.

we have no vote, no input, so in sense charleybob is right shut and race or dont race that are your options.

jack

Greg Hill 10-07-2010 02:01 PM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy (Post 215222)
i do believe charleybob would have a different point of view if he was not racing a new CJ... and if it was up to his daddy he'd be driving the tractor on the farm !!

a new set of heads up FX classes would be an easy fix, attract more attention to the manufacturers and stock eliminator... BUT the manufacturers might not agree and thier $$$$ is what this is all about.

NHRA will not intervene unless the $$$$ money agrees.

we have no vote, no input, so in sense charleybob is right shut and race or dont race that are your options.

jack

Maybe not jack.

davidhuff 10-07-2010 11:56 PM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Zlatkin (Post 215197)
How about like NASCAR does;

Impound a car at a race, then put it on a dyno instead of all this ***** footing around.

No argument with the results.

That would be a great idea if NHRA paid the the same money as NASCAR.I guess a racer could go to the local motel while his car is being impounded and on the dyno and wait by the phone for the results.LOL

ALMACK 10-08-2010 11:51 AM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
After reading that article I couldn't help but notice all the "B's" in the committee....plus one retired "B"....lol


"The Stock and Super Stock committee is made up of Bob Lang, Bob Blackwell, Bruce Bachelder, Dave Mohn and Cvengros. Bill Holt was on the Stock and Super Stock committee, but he is no longer on the committee because he just recently retired. "

Jeff Teuton 10-08-2010 12:06 PM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
And the system goes right along with 12 more for the 5.7. Should be 360 next week.

Qwikpony 10-11-2010 05:54 PM

Re: Ford CJ's and Mopar DP's NHRA is now on the case
 
We need to remember that NHRA's horsepower comittee needs to be given some respect in the sense that basically...... they were told a HUGE LIE by both Ford and Chrysler about these new cars. It is well known the amount of money that foth Ford and Mopar are putting into NHRA events and etc. So when NHRA asked these manufacturers to give them an HONEST set of power figures ( IN GOOD FAITH), they expected to be told the truth. I can't blame either Ford or Mopar for trying to "one up" the other, but it has come at the expense of too many racers. Ford and Mopar should be ashamed to even think that for a second NHRA and it's sportsman racers are so naive and ignorant as to not know the power potential right away. We are talking about 40+ years of R&D, technology and yes... EFI. The main difference between the "old" LT and LS cars is that they were actually built to be street cars with VIN's and license plates. Now it is up to NHRA to take the necessary action to level the playing field for everyone else while still allowing Ford and Mopar to slug it out in the HP wars. I don't advocate taking HP off of the older combos because many racers have spent countless hours finding the optimum place for the ballast. This could severely hurt the higher horsepower cars on the marginal tracks we routinely race on. I think that a separate class is the best answer at this point. The re-establishment of the EFI classes would be a great step. I was a dealership mechanic for over 10 years, so I know how awesome the EFI tuning parameters are.


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