Re: Check out my 427 Side Oiler barn find!
http://http://www.mecum.com/auctions...10_010110_S159
I believe those props in Jeffs boat image rotate inward. http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...10_010110_S159 |
Re: Check out my 427 Side Oiler barn find!
Only very late 406's as I remember never used in production (not even early 63 406's before Dec 1963 only for NASCAR.
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[QUOTE=Dale Shannon;160284]Side oiler block has a galley casted in block down the (SIDE OF BLOCK)
Counter-rotate is only cam change and is PORT engine left from back of boat, was done mainly on Hi-po boats to help go straight-er, I was under the impression that the Ford 427 Marine engines would have a crankshaft with the rear main seal grooves reversed, wouldn`t using such a crankshaft in the standard rotation be likely to have oil leaks in the rear main, due to the grooves pushing oil towards the seal, rather than flinging it away? Also, I would imagine the distributor would also be designed for reverse rotaion, not that anybody would use a marine dist in a car. I also have to wonder if 40 years of having the block loaded in 1 direction would possibly cause strength concerns under "heavy" usage with the rotation switched? As for the side oiler vs top oiler, I believe that all the 300 HP 427 Ford marine engines were cast with the side oiler "bulge" down the drivers side of the block, but were left undrilled. I suppose a really good machinist may be able to drill the passages out, but due to the passage running the length of the block, & a "cut out" for motor mounts in that area, such an attempt is quite risky. Personally, I`ve be racing 428 FE`s for 30 years, and 390`s before that, which are of the top oiler design, and have never had any oil deivery related failures after a few modifications were made to the original oiling setup. Myself, I wouldn`t be too concerned about not having a side oiler block. The side oilers were mainly designed for NASCAR & endurance road racing, but for the typical drag or street type FE engine, not needed. There seems to be a bunch of mystical hype surrounding the side oiler 427`s, but it`s mainly by the semi uninformed, who "need" to have a "correct" side oiler block for their fiberglass kit car copy of a AC Cobra. |
Re: Check out my 427 Side Oiler barn find!
If the engine rotated backwards, so would the distributor. The plug wiring in the pictures indicates that the distributor on that engine is rotating counter-clockwise, which is the same direction as a car engine, so it doesn't look like a reverse rotation to me.
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Re: Check out my 427 Side Oiler barn find!
Bill,
The counter rotating engines I have worked on have the same dist rotation. The gear on the cam is ground different and it still turns the oil pump and dist the correct way. |
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I stand corrected. I could see where a different cam and distributor gear could maintain the same rotation. I didn't think about the ramifications to the oil pump!
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I knew a garage that installed a marine starter on an old Ford dump truck with a FE engine and then the engine would not start, they worked on that truck for a long time until somebody notice the engine was turning the wrong direction when they were cranking it,,,,,,,,,,,
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Re: Check out my 427 Side Oiler barn find!
Jeff, it looks like a Meduim Riser from the pic. Those are correct carbs for a Medium Riser. I have never seen a single-engine 427 that was reverse rotation. That was done to turn the props opposite directions in twin-engine boats. If the wet manifolds have HM on them, it is most likely a side-oiler. The "cast but not drilled" blocks were in bigger boats and were lower horsepower applications. The Holman Moody stuff were usually sideoilers by the late 60's. They also put the MR top end on 428's for some V-drive applications. My dad's G hull Rayson Craft came from Gardena with a 428 that had that top end on it. If it is a 428 there will be no crossbolts or side galley. I would be interested in the marine equipment if the buyer isn't using this for a boat. I still play with some of that stuff. My email is captcj@hughes.net.
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I went over to look at it and to my surprise it was medium riser 427. Crossbolted mains. Steel Crank, Cap Screw Rods, Screw in Freeze Plugs. Standard Bore. Never drilled for a hydraulic lifter cam. I just about freaked. I told him what it had and he was totally dis-interested. It was a Ford. He said he wanted 250 bucks for it. I gave it to him. |
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