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GUMP 01-29-2023 06:55 PM

Re: COPO, Drag-Pak, CJ II, (FX) Secrets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 675001)
But, an argument could be made that they ruined the concept of Stock Eliminator

Name one rule that was changed to accommodate them....

Mark Yacavone 01-29-2023 07:03 PM

Re: COPO, Drag-Pak, CJ II, (FX) Secrets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 675006)
Name one rule that was changed to accommodate them....

Easy enough....
Section 11A, page 1 Stock Cars
SECTION 11
STOCKCategory is based on a handicap start using the NHRA index
system; breakout rules apply. Note: For more information on the
Automatic Horsepower Factoring System, visit NHRARacer.com.
SECTION 11A
STOCK CARS
DESIGNATIONS
FS/AA, FS/A, FS/B, FS/C, FS/D, FS/E, FS/F, FS/G, FS/H, FS/I,
FS/J, FS/K, FS/L, AA/S, A/S, B/S, C/S, D/S, E/S, F/S, G/S, H/S,
I/S, J/S, K/S, L/S, M/S, N/S, O/S, P/S, Q/S, R/S, T/S, U/S, V/S,
and W/S (manual transmission), preceded by car number. AA/
SA, A/SA, B/SA, C/SA, D/SA, E/SA, F/SA, G/SA, H/SA, I/SA, J/
SA, K/SA, L/SA, M/SA, N/SA, O/SA, P/SA, Q/SA, R/SA, T/SA, U/
SA, V/SA, and W/SA (automatic transmission), preceded by car
number. AAF/S, AF/S, BF/S, CF/S, DF/S, and EF/S (front-wheel-
drive), preceded by car number.
Reserved for 1955 or newer model-year factory-production
automobiles and some sports cars. Classified per NHRA
performance rating as listed in the Official NHRA Stock Car
Classification Guide. Only those cars listed in the guide are
eligible for competition. All cars in Stock classes must be factory-
production assembled, showroom available, and in the hands of
the general public. A minimum 500 units of a particular body style
must be produced

Should we go on?

GUMP 01-29-2023 07:12 PM

Re: COPO, Drag-Pak, CJ II, (FX) Secrets
 
Actually, the classes themselves were created to stop all the crying. The cars came first...

Mark Yacavone 01-29-2023 09:17 PM

Re: COPO, Drag-Pak, CJ II, (FX) Secrets
 
Here's another one:


"Aluminum
center section permitted only on vehicles that were originally
equipped with same."


In other words, a "stock" CJ II center section is not allowed in another Ford CJ 1

Mark Yacavone 01-29-2023 09:24 PM

Re: COPO, Drag-Pak, CJ II, (FX) Secrets
 
More...

"Porting, polishing, welding, epoxying and acid-porting prohibited.
Combustion-chamber modifications prohibited. "

I don't see where CNC porting is allowed

MR DERBY CITY 01-29-2023 09:39 PM

Re: COPO, Drag-Pak, CJ II, (FX) Secrets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 675006)
Name one rule that was changed to accommodate them....

Good GAWD Gump, you ever seen a nine inch FORD rear end in a 69 Camaro stock eliminator car ????

Stan Weiss 01-29-2023 09:39 PM

Re: COPO, Drag-Pak, CJ II, (FX) Secrets
 
I maybe wrong be wasn't AMC the first to offer ported heads?


Stan

GUMP 01-29-2023 09:59 PM

Re: COPO, Drag-Pak, CJ II, (FX) Secrets
 
I guess the argument has now turned to interpreting the rules?

Every turn-key late model factory car came with a 9" rear and aluminum center section. The 2008-up rule came when racers started converting the factory cars to their production version around 2015.

Factory ported heads were in the guide before 2008.

MR DERBY CITY 01-29-2023 10:24 PM

Re: COPO, Drag-Pak, CJ II, (FX) Secrets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 675015)
Good GAWD Gump, you ever seen a nine inch FORD rear end in a 69 Camaro stock eliminator car ????

Mr. Gump, just answer my question …..

MR DERBY CITY 01-29-2023 10:33 PM

Re: COPO, Drag-Pak, CJ II, (FX) Secrets
 
[QUOTE=MR DERBY CITY;675015]Good GAWD Gump, you ever seen a nine inch FORD rear end in a 69 Camaro stock eliminator car ????[


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