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Jim Wahl 12-17-2012 08:19 PM

Re: Modified return?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by randy wilson (Post 361205)
Get real! A spec head works great for the circle track boys, and the stands are packed with 1,500 to 2,000 spectators a night. Let Brodix be the head tech, and there you go. Hard to hide anything with the guys who design, and cast those heads. Pounds per cube would work under that scenario, It's high time they did something that put the spectator back in the stands. Anyone who's not smart enough to run competitive under those simple rules, really has no bussiness running a pounds per cube class. This other stuff they pretend to police, and the high costs in todays world, is killing any pretense of class racing. Just my thoughts. But with the way the economy is going now, I doubt anything will work. NHRA has people in charge that has no idea what actually makes dragracing interesting anymore.

So you guys want only Chevies racing anymore? Is Brodix going to make a spec head for every combo out there? Yeah right. I have no desire to do as the roundy rounders do. Jim


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randy wilson 12-17-2012 10:21 PM

Re: Modified return?
 
If you would bother looking it up, you'd find they make a matching head for ford, chevy, and mopar. That is if you would bother looking it up.

SSDiv6 12-17-2012 10:40 PM

Re: Modified return?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 361296)
So you guys want only Chevies racing anymore? Is Brodix going to make a spec head for every combo out there? Yeah right. I have no desire to do as the roundy rounders do. Jim.

Jim, it appears this same subject is brought up about every 4 months... ;)

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=42508

Pvt Parts 12-18-2012 12:21 AM

Re: Modified return?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Butler (Post 360600)
Watching and reading the posts on the "Bogus HP ratings" . Everyone is well aware of the fact NHRA cannot, will not, or cares not to make the field level based on HP ratings.
I realize most are "born and bred" Stock or SS racers where ratings WERE the answer.
Why not move more and more to the Modified classes currently present? No advantage to anyone who builds one over another.
Why not support the lb/cubic inch class of your choice and help push the level field by leaving it to the "Bogus Hp cars" and still racing on a more equal basis?


Dick, you are 100% correct. When I made that move and sold my SS/A B Corvette it was the best thing I ever did and never looked back. The first time out with the new car at a National Event in Houston netted a #6 qualifying spot (with a single carb and a 4 speed) at 8.86 154 which at the time, was the quickest and fastest SS car in history. (SS/AM) I've tried to tell the racers on this forum that's the best thing they could do but had few takers. You and I know that people tend to find a "comfort zone" and stay there. They will whine and cry like 10 year old school girls about their suffering and the problems they face but won't do anything about it.

Fact: Most of the problems and complaints faced by the traditional S and SS racers are coming from people and organizations they cannot control and it's not gonna stop.

Fact: You have to take a reactive position. If those problems really bother you that much... MOVE to a place where those problems don't exist... in this case, SS Modified or Comp.

Fact: The new cars are here to stay and the older ones are on a sinking ship. It's just a matter of time. At bare minimum, it's foolish to continue pumping money into an older car. If you have to, sell all of your older stuff - sit out a year or two and build a new car. If you are unable to face this reality and make the changes necessary so you can become a more content, fulfilled racer in this traveling circus, you have no one to blame but yourself.... cause it ain't gonna change.

Randall Klein 12-18-2012 10:38 AM

Re: Modified return?
 
".......if you have to, SELL your older stuff...."

Not quite the market for "stuff" outdated by mis-classed vehicles; pretty cavalier attitude for someone who sold out in a different market

Rusty Davenport 12-18-2012 10:53 AM

Re: Modified return?
 
Car types, hood scoops, classes and heads will not end class racing.........people types will.

Ed Wright 12-18-2012 11:17 AM

Re: Modified return?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by randall klein (Post 361367)
".......if you have to, sell your older stuff...."

not quite the market for "stuff" outdated by mis-classed vehicles; pretty cavalier attitude for someone who sold out in a different market

x2!

Hemi Moose 12-19-2012 06:40 PM

Re: Modified return?
 
I've been pondering this question myself, what will be the breaking point for the racers in stock or super stock to just cause them to switch to modified eliminator if they brought it back...would it be the rules, the entrance fees & payouts or just the fact that NHRA keeps squeezing you.

Dick Butler 12-19-2012 09:19 PM

Re: Modified return?
 
Guys if you could start by using your current chassis with the spec head motor at the same wts wouldnt that be a good start?
Randall, How about the market for 57 or 56 chevy out there? a current drive train and tires and remove cage could sell for street or Mecum.
Yes its work and money but it might be worth a look.
Cure, Get out of classes where new cars can compete or just suffer another year.. Modified can work...for everyone better than Fake HP/lb.

randy wilson 12-20-2012 10:23 AM

Re: Modified return?
 
Guys, I have to admit that class racing is probably on it's last death throes, but I like to dream. Anyone who thinks we're ol;d fashioned, and not with the times, needs to only look at the 76, to 81 mod vids to see the crowd did not leave the fence, and go buy a hot dog when modified came up. Now, when the pros are done, you couldn't sell a hot dog in the stands. What the hell was NHRA thinking? And sorry young guys, the new stuff has not the following we had, so I'll continue to live in the past, and watch spectators leave by the droves. Drag racing, as a whole, is dying. None of what we talk about will ever happen, but still, it's a blast to think of the possibilities.


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