'Back in the day' info requested

ss wannabee · 06-16-2007, 01:22 PM

Does anyone out there have some old National Dragsters and could check to see what the SS/U (Super Stock-U) record was circa 1972-1974? I bumped into an old friend who started to build one then but quit due to $$$$$. He says the 'hitters' in the class at the time were Jack Mullins and a guy named Pacey with Pontiac wagons, and a guy from Texas with a '55 Chevy called 'Charlie Brown'...and some guys from Ohio with a Chevy wagon. Thanks for your time!

Myron Piatek · 06-16-2007, 05:34 PM

I haven't seen him in a while, but there was/is a guy with a '55(?) Nomad/panel wagon named "Charlie Brown" in SS that runs IHRA, possibly Div. 9 (Carolinas)
Unfortunately, I don't recall his name at the moment.

If it is the same person & someone remembers his name, that might be a start to track him down and get the info first hand!

Locomotion Racing
http://www.geocities.com/locomotionracing

Bunkster · 06-16-2007, 05:36 PM

This may help you on the Mullins Pontiac:

http://www.highperformancepontiac.co...ory/index.html

The Ohio Chevy you are speaking of may have been Larry Nelson and Duane Brock. Nelson may still work at Jeg's.

Neil Smedley · 06-16-2007, 08:41 PM

SS/U cars that i remember from that era..........Kyle Brothers, Columbus, Ohio 55 chevy War Wagon.....John Lingenfelter 66 chevy wagon...Jack Mullins 63 Pontiac wagon Helena, AR....Lamar Vaubel Hebron, Ohio 55 chevy Buckeye Shaker....Pay Hardy 55 chevy Covina, Ca.....Barry Raichlin 55 chevy Buffalo, NY.....Paul Dilcher 55 Chevy Buffalo, NY and Ontario, Ca.......Daryl Summerton 55 Chevy Elma, NY.....Ronald Domagnue 55 Chevy Tuff-E-Nuff Gulfport, MS....Johnny Jordan 63 Pontiac wagon.....Charlie Hampf 55 Chevy Witchcraft Delmar, DE.....and the 55 Chevy from Texas might have been Hutchinson.......After a few more beers I might remember some more.........

Neil Smedley · 06-16-2007, 08:49 PM

And without digging into the hundreds of old Dragsters that I have, I think the record was around 13.30 at the time............

Chuck Norton · 06-17-2007, 12:29 AM

Neil, I drove Val Hedworth's '55 4-door at the Lion's points meet during Juy, 1972 and set the SS/U record at 13.54. Dilcher was outraged! Of course, the whole thing was choreographed while Val drove my regular ride, Richard Salcido's Camaro to set the record in SS/LA. At the next meet he was in a position to reset the record in SS/U. No one could have anticipated that he would sell his combination in a SS/V wagon at the end of the U.S. Nationals that summer.

What golden days in S/S eliminator!

c

MYRONARL1119 · 06-17-2007, 11:45 PM

FROM DEC 20,1974 DRAGSTER. SS/U RECORD 12.86 SET 4/74 IN LA PLACE.LA BY HUTCHINSON. SS/U MPH SET 3/74 BY MR LARRY PACEY IN 1963 PONTIAC. AS U WILL RECALL SS AUTOMATIC LOWEST CLASS WAS SS/QA..THAT RECORD WAS OWNED BY AL SEGER IN THE 1972 OLDS @ 12.51 AT 110.75 MPH. HOPE THAT HELPS. MYRON STUTES

MYRONARL1119

Adger Smith · 06-18-2007, 01:39 AM

At Sealey, Tx about 4 ,maybe 5, years ago I saw Hutch standing behind the starting line watching the races. I walked up to him & spoke & he retured the acknowledgement, got on his bike & rode off into the pits. Didn't see him the rest of the weekend. Still looks the same, just older like we all do....We all just called him Hutch, I think there was supposed to be a Robert in the front of that.
I think Jack is still in Helena Ar. I saw him quite a few years ago at Eastex Race Cars. Vic was building a Comp altered with some kind of secret German Engineered engine. Another East Texas stand out with the old 55 chevy was Marshall Corley. I believe his was a SS/P. I ran into him last year ar Rusk. He is still active in engine building. He has turned some of the SS & stock engine tricks to work for dirt racers.

Adger Smith

G Schenck · 06-19-2007, 12:10 AM

Adger, you being a Texan, should have also mention Jake Foyt. Here in South Louisiana, we had Ronnie Domangue "Tuff E Nuff" who runs A/SA now and Johnny Duzat "Instint Grits" who just set the record in D/S. I remember every time Duzat set the record that Larry Nelson and that crew from Zanesville Ohio would reset it.

Greg

ps James Lee is still out there running.

Dwight Southerland · 06-19-2007, 11:22 AM

If I remember correctly, Jack Mulllins was #1 qualifier at Indy in 1975 with a 12.38. He edged out Buddy Ingersol's '72 Cutlass (changed from a '71 to take advantage of a lower hp rating that Farmer negated in the tech line on Wednesday). I saw him go 12.17 at Carlisle, AR a few weeks after Indy.

06-16-2007, 05:34 PM	#2
Myron Piatek VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,539 Likes: 34 Liked 135 Times in 49 Posts	I haven't seen him in a while, but there was/is a guy with a '55(?) Nomad/panel wagon named "Charlie Brown" in SS that runs IHRA, possibly Div. 9 (Carolinas) Unfortunately, I don't recall his name at the moment. If it is the same person & someone remembers his name, that might be a start to track him down and get the info first hand! Locomotion Racing http://www.geocities.com/locomotionracing __________________ LOCOMOTION Racing

06-17-2007, 12:29 AM	#6
Chuck Norton Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 470 Likes: 81 Liked 69 Times in 15 Posts	Neil, I drove Val Hedworth's '55 4-door at the Lion's points meet during Juy, 1972 and set the SS/U record at 13.54. Dilcher was outraged! Of course, the whole thing was choreographed while Val drove my regular ride, Richard Salcido's Camaro to set the record in SS/LA. At the next meet he was in a position to reset the record in SS/U. No one could have anticipated that he would sell his combination in a SS/V wagon at the end of the U.S. Nationals that summer. What golden days in S/S eliminator! c __________________ Chuck Norton

06-18-2007, 01:39 AM	#8
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,363 Likes: 450 Liked 693 Times in 269 Posts	At Sealey, Tx about 4 ,maybe 5, years ago I saw Hutch standing behind the starting line watching the races. I walked up to him & spoke & he retured the acknowledgement, got on his bike & rode off into the pits. Didn't see him the rest of the weekend. Still looks the same, just older like we all do....We all just called him Hutch, I think there was supposed to be a Robert in the front of that. I think Jack is still in Helena Ar. I saw him quite a few years ago at Eastex Race Cars. Vic was building a Comp altered with some kind of secret German Engineered engine. Another East Texas stand out with the old 55 chevy was Marshall Corley. I believe his was a SS/P. I ran into him last year ar Rusk. He is still active in engine building. He has turned some of the SS & stock engine tricks to work for dirt racers. Adger Smith __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

06-19-2007, 11:22 AM	#10
Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 1,982 Likes: 54 Liked 726 Times in 177 Posts	If I remember correctly, Jack Mulllins was #1 qualifier at Indy in 1975 with a 12.38. He edged out Buddy Ingersol's '72 Cutlass (changed from a '71 to take advantage of a lower hp rating that Farmer negated in the tech line on Wednesday). I saw him go 12.17 at Carlisle, AR a few weeks after Indy. __________________

06-16-2007, 01:22 PM	#1
ss wannabee Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 663 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts	'Back in the day' info requested Does anyone out there have some old National Dragsters and could check to see what the SS/U (Super Stock-U) record was circa 1972-1974? I bumped into an old friend who started to build one then but quit due to $$$$$. He says the 'hitters' in the class at the time were Jack Mullins and a guy named Pacey with Pontiac wagons, and a guy from Texas with a '55 Chevy called 'Charlie Brown'...and some guys from Ohio with a Chevy wagon. Thanks for your time!

06-16-2007, 05:36 PM	#3
Bunkster Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 307 Likes: 0 Liked 43 Times in 10 Posts	This may help you on the Mullins Pontiac: http://www.highperformancepontiac.co...ory/index.html The Ohio Chevy you are speaking of may have been Larry Nelson and Duane Brock. Nelson may still work at Jeg's.

06-16-2007, 08:41 PM	#4
Neil Smedley Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 163 Likes: 32 Liked 22 Times in 7 Posts	SS/U cars that i remember from that era..........Kyle Brothers, Columbus, Ohio 55 chevy War Wagon.....John Lingenfelter 66 chevy wagon...Jack Mullins 63 Pontiac wagon Helena, AR....Lamar Vaubel Hebron, Ohio 55 chevy Buckeye Shaker....Pay Hardy 55 chevy Covina, Ca.....Barry Raichlin 55 chevy Buffalo, NY.....Paul Dilcher 55 Chevy Buffalo, NY and Ontario, Ca.......Daryl Summerton 55 Chevy Elma, NY.....Ronald Domagnue 55 Chevy Tuff-E-Nuff Gulfport, MS....Johnny Jordan 63 Pontiac wagon.....Charlie Hampf 55 Chevy Witchcraft Delmar, DE.....and the 55 Chevy from Texas might have been Hutchinson.......After a few more beers I might remember some more.........

06-16-2007, 08:49 PM	#5
Neil Smedley Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 163 Likes: 32 Liked 22 Times in 7 Posts	And without digging into the hundreds of old Dragsters that I have, I think the record was around 13.30 at the time............

06-17-2007, 11:45 PM	#7
MYRONARL1119 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: COLUMBUS,OHIO Posts: 59 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	FROM DEC 20,1974 DRAGSTER. SS/U RECORD 12.86 SET 4/74 IN LA PLACE.LA BY HUTCHINSON. SS/U MPH SET 3/74 BY MR LARRY PACEY IN 1963 PONTIAC. AS U WILL RECALL SS AUTOMATIC LOWEST CLASS WAS SS/QA..THAT RECORD WAS OWNED BY AL SEGER IN THE 1972 OLDS @ 12.51 AT 110.75 MPH. HOPE THAT HELPS. MYRON STUTES MYRONARL1119

06-19-2007, 12:10 AM	#9
G Schenck Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Harahan, La. Posts: 521 Likes: 41 Liked 81 Times in 35 Posts	Adger, you being a Texan, should have also mention Jake Foyt. Here in South Louisiana, we had Ronnie Domangue "Tuff E Nuff" who runs A/SA now and Johnny Duzat "Instint Grits" who just set the record in D/S. I remember every time Duzat set the record that Larry Nelson and that crew from Zanesville Ohio would reset it. Greg ps James Lee is still out there running.