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Pro Stock weight
I know, I know this is not a stock or super stock comment.
It seems that Chevrolets dominate pro stock.......qualifying and eliminations. How about making a weight adjustment, subject to change, and give the Mopars 50 pounds and ford's 100 pounds. Change when necessary to keep it equal. I am sure people will say..""work harder and you will go faster".....that hasn't happened. I would like to see qualifying within a hun.
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Re: Pro Stock weight
The qualifying spread at Pomona is .114. It was even better, .075 at Las Vegas. An average spread around .100 is excellent in any Pro category. Not even Super categories can qualify 16 cars within .01
Weight breaks haven't been used in NHRA Pro Stock in 34 years, but that hasn't prevented Fords and Mopars from winning races and championships in the meantime. |
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Re: Pro Stock weight
Have to admit it's been a surprise that the Elite bunch couldn't get the Darts competitive. No telling what the Johnsons could have done with Mopar backing but that's another story. IMHO weight adjustments by NHRA would be a joke...the cream would rise to the top just like in PSM.
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Re: Pro Stock weight
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Re: Pro Stock weight
Pro Stock is dead and the NHRA is going to pull the plug on it as we currently know it within 5 years.
The engine now in Alan's car was purchased from Elite. He didn't qualify at Vegas with it and is #16 at Pomona, .023 slower than #15. He's got a long way to go and lots of $ to spend before he is competitive. Last edited by 1320racer; 11-13-2016 at 09:05 AM. |
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Re: Pro Stock weight
MOPAR needs to get off that Hemi crap, and develope a decent cylinder head. Low air flow = low power.
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Re: Pro Stock weight
You can't fix Pro Stock.
1. Ford and Chrysler don't really want to play. 2. NHRA has no idea what they're doing. 3. You can't outlaw extreme spending. 4. The cars do not remotely resemble production street cars anymore. 5. Fans that are catered to are interested in fuel cars. But boy, fuel injection sure did help, didn't it? And the hood scoop rule, and the parking rule, and the wheelie bar rule ........
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Re: Pro Stock weight
IMHO, Factory Stock = 21st Century Pro Stock! And all of the Manufacturers want to play.
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Re: Pro Stock weight
NHRA will not be bothered with Pro Stock that requires weight breaks, factors, or other adjustments.
The 500 cubic inch 2350 pound version of Pro Stock is actually the most healthy and most sustainable over time. Some of the money can be negated by common sense rules. Take them back to a 14"x32" slick. A body template rule with reasonable scoop and spoiler limits, which will also make them look like factory cars. Modify the EFI rule and take the throttle body size down. Get rid of some exotic materials. Factory Stock works now because it is something like the old muscle car wars, where the customers are absorbing the costs of development to a large degree ($100K per car makes it somewhat affordable to amortize it when most of what changes is just the engine). Even better, no insurance problems or government safety and emission regulations. As soon as you take that to a professional level, the customers don't absorb so much of the cost, they expect parts, cars, and development help. Not only that, they expect new combinations to beat the factors when weight breaks and factors get involved. Not to mention NHRA then has to make the three of them happy with factors, and then you have the nightmare of factoring small engines against big engines, supercharged against normally aspirated, etc.
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Re: Pro Stock weight
Let Pro Stock die. There is nothing STOCK about them anymore. I lost interest many years ago, and I followed the class since it's beginning in 1970.
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