69 camaro front suspension

Camarob859 · 11-07-2016, 06:45 PM

Hi all
I've got some troubles with my camaro wondering what you guys have done to correct, the front tires when lifted off the ground are "towed in" 1 3/4" square on the ground also what can be done about the camber change with no load?

Ed Wright · 11-08-2016, 06:47 PM

No answer so far, so last '69 Camaro I had, I heated the arms at the spindles to make the outer tie rods level at mid-travel. This was back in the 1970s, so I don't remember if the ends had to go up or down.

Rod Greene · 11-08-2016, 06:57 PM

"This was back in the 1070s," Some of us have around a long time!

Seriously though, the Mopar Chassis Manual had a section on correcting bump steer. That could possibly help.

MR DERBY CITY · 11-08-2016, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

No answer so far, so last '69 Camaro I had, I heated the arms at the spindals to make the outer tie rods level at mid-travel. This was back in the 1070s, so I don't remember if the ends had to go up or down.

1070's....Damn Ed, you are older than I thought....you were already OLD when you ran junior stock.....LOL......

Ed Wright · 11-08-2016, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

1070's....Damn Ed, you are older than I thought....you were already OLD when you ran junior stock.....LOL......

Just thought about that, that Camaro was in the mid 1980s. Sorry.
And, I just turned 73 this past Monday.

J&S Racing · 11-08-2016, 08:38 PM

Either Sphon or speeteck sells a bump steer kit. They use a heim joint for the outer tie rod with shims to get them level as possible. These ARE legal in stock!

Might want to take a look at the Global West offset shafts, not sure if they would help your problem.

George Mirza · 11-08-2016, 10:42 PM

Sounds like a bump steer kit will solve most of your problem. Speedway sells all the parts to make one. They may even have a kit for a 1st gen Camaro. I put one together for my Duster and it worked out very well. They make a threaded stud that replaces the tie rod end, a couple of hiem joints and the right length threaded tube and your good to go.

Mark70Nova · 11-08-2016, 10:56 PM

Baer brakes sells a nice bump steer kit that I have used numerous times, I like the tapered stud they give you that goes into the steering arm instead of just a standard bolt like a lot of them have. It doesn't completely eliminate bump steer but it reduces it to almost nothing.

SDT1DYI · 11-09-2016, 12:55 PM

You may want to look at an upper ball joint extension, which changes the arc the upper A arm travel in relationship to the lower A arm.. It will change toe in, depending on where you adjust the upper A arm travel stop. The Coil spring height will as well change the static height of the upper A arm and the travel distance. Try running as much positive Caster as possible, 4- 5 degrees , it should help at speed down track .

SDT1DYI · 11-09-2016, 08:42 PM

One other issue to be carefully with I forgot to mention with increasing suspension travel with extend upper ball joints, make sure you check that you don't exceed the travel limits of the shocks.

11-07-2016, 06:45 PM	#1
Camarob859 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 52 Likes: 4 Liked 8 Times in 3 Posts	69 camaro front suspension Hi all I've got some troubles with my camaro wondering what you guys have done to correct, the front tires when lifted off the ground are "towed in" 1 3/4" square on the ground also what can be done about the camber change with no load?

11-08-2016, 06:47 PM	#2
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: 69 camaro front suspension No answer so far, so last '69 Camaro I had, I heated the arms at the spindles to make the outer tie rods level at mid-travel. This was back in the 1970s, so I don't remember if the ends had to go up or down. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA Last edited by Ed Wright; 11-09-2016 at 07:00 PM.

11-08-2016, 06:57 PM	#3
Rod Greene Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: TN Posts: 530 Likes: 414 Liked 242 Times in 81 Posts	Re: 69 camaro front suspension "This was back in the 1070s," Some of us have around a long time! Seriously though, the Mopar Chassis Manual had a section on correcting bump steer. That could possibly help. __________________ Rod Greene Real men shift for them selves. Slowly working on TA Challenger for D,E/S and a 72 Challenger for SS/K, L as if I don't have enough other projects. Last edited by Rod Greene; 11-08-2016 at 07:02 PM.

11-08-2016, 08:38 PM	#6
J&S Racing Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 283 Likes: 102 Liked 319 Times in 82 Posts	Re: 69 camaro front suspension Either Sphon or speeteck sells a bump steer kit. They use a heim joint for the outer tie rod with shims to get them level as possible. These ARE legal in stock! Might want to take a look at the Global West offset shafts, not sure if they would help your problem.

11-08-2016, 10:42 PM	#7
George Mirza Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: North Attleborough Ma. Posts: 522 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 69 camaro front suspension Sounds like a bump steer kit will solve most of your problem. Speedway sells all the parts to make one. They may even have a kit for a 1st gen Camaro. I put one together for my Duster and it worked out very well. They make a threaded stud that replaces the tie rod end, a couple of hiem joints and the right length threaded tube and your good to go. __________________ GEORGE MIRZA STK 1236

11-08-2016, 10:56 PM	#8
Mark70Nova Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 33 Likes: 92 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 69 camaro front suspension Baer brakes sells a nice bump steer kit that I have used numerous times, I like the tapered stud they give you that goes into the steering arm instead of just a standard bolt like a lot of them have. It doesn't completely eliminate bump steer but it reduces it to almost nothing.

11-09-2016, 12:55 PM	#9
SDT1DYI Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Indianola Washington Posts: 397 Likes: 0 Liked 453 Times in 146 Posts	Re: 69 camaro front suspension You may want to look at an upper ball joint extension, which changes the arc the upper A arm travel in relationship to the lower A arm.. It will change toe in, depending on where you adjust the upper A arm travel stop. The Coil spring height will as well change the static height of the upper A arm and the travel distance. Try running as much positive Caster as possible, 4- 5 degrees , it should help at speed down track .

11-09-2016, 08:42 PM	#10
SDT1DYI Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Indianola Washington Posts: 397 Likes: 0 Liked 453 Times in 146 Posts	Re: 69 camaro front suspension One other issue to be carefully with I forgot to mention with increasing suspension travel with extend upper ball joints, make sure you check that you don't exceed the travel limits of the shocks.