2014 z28 & gt500

[Ken Miele]

The new Z28 and Shelby at New York Auto show. Horsepower seems to be alive and well.

2014 Chevy Camaro Z/28 rolls out at New York auto show...
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2013...YORK/130329827


Super Shelby Mustang blasts its way into New York auto show...
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2013...YORK/130329940

[joelster]

I wonder how they are going to price the Z28. It "should" be cheaper than the ZL1.

[ALMACK]

Good to see GM step up their game !
This coming from a Ford guy.

Competition improves the breed.

[Jim Wahl]

That Shelby looks bad ***! Wonder what the sticker will be? Jim


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[KRatcliff]

Over $200,000.

[kdanner]

Originally Posted by joelster

I wonder how they are going to price the Z28. It "should" be cheaper than the ZL1.

Actually GM says:


"Pricing will be announced at a later date. The Z/28 will be positioned above the ZL1 due to the fact that it features the very best, race-proven equipment on the market"

[ken robinson]

Can anybody tell me why the new camaros are so heavy ? And for all the lucky new copo owners what is your min lbs. and what classes can you run it in ?

[Jeff Lee]

I believe the Boss 302 street version is supposed to final in 2013. That's too bad. I'd love to see a competition between the Z-28 & Boss 302, just like the good old days!

[Evan Smith]

The Z/28 will be the halo Camaro with over 500 hp and Chevy said it will be 300 lbs lighter than the ZL-1. Expect pricing to be about $60,000, which is disappointing for obvious reasons. I can say it looks awesome in person and the one Chevy rolled out at the show sounded amazing. These are great times for performance enthusiasts.

The Boss 302 was a $42,000 car with 444 hp, so no question which would be faster. The Z will be more than Ford's GT500 ($54,200), which has 662 hp and can run well into the 11s at 128 mph.

As for weight on new cars (vs old cars), yes they are heavy, but it doesn't seem to hurt performance or economy. The new ones must be built to strict government standards and as a result are about a million times safer with much more rigid chassis' (with crumple zones), multiple air bags, ABS, traction control, computer enhanced handling, computers for engine management (plus the wiring). All these systems add weight.

Even with navigation, better stereos with multiple speakers, seats with air bags, bigger brakes, etc., new cars will out accelerate, out handle, out brake early cars. They get double or triple the mpg and last twice as long as the old cars did.

Mind you, I love classic muscle cars and you can argue the styling aspect all day long, but there is no question which are better in terms of performance, safety, reliability, and overall driveability.

Evan

[MLP]

Originally Posted by Evan Smith

The Z/28 will be the halo Camaro with over 500 hp and Chevy said it will be 300 lbs lighter than the ZL-1. Expect pricing to be about $60,000, which is disappointing for obvious reasons. I can say it looks awesome in person and the one Chevy rolled out at the show sounded amazing. These are great times for performance enthusiasts.

The Boss 302 was a $42,000 car with 444 hp, so no question which would be faster. The Z will be more than Ford's GT500 ($54,200), which has 662 hp and can run well into the 11s at 128 mph.

As for weight on new cars (vs old cars), yes they are heavy, but it doesn't seem to hurt performance or economy. The new ones must be built to strict government standards and as a result are about a million times safer with much more rigid chassis' (with crumple zones), multiple air bags, ABS, traction control, computer enhanced handling, computers for engine management (plus the wiring). All these systems add weight.

Even with navigation, better stereos with multiple speakers, seats with air bags, bigger brakes, etc., new cars will out accelerate, out handle, out brake early cars. They get double or triple the mpg and last twice as long as the old cars did.

Mind you, I love classic muscle cars and you can argue the styling aspect all day long, but there is no question which are better in terms of performance, safety, reliability, and overall driveability.

Evan

What did a '70 Mach 1 or Z-28 cost? Five grand or less? That was expensive back then, but nothing compared to what the special edition versions cost now. The main difference between then and now is then you didn't have to be well off to own one.

The new muscle cars are impressive and I'm glad the big three have made them. I just wish they would come back to earth with pricing so an average guy like me could afford one.