Live from VALDOSTA... lol are you kidding

FlyingW · 03-04-2012, 03:14 PM

So riddle me this Batman... we are sitting here at Valdosta... its 2:10 pm and so far this is what the situation is... yesterday as everyone knows it was a huge downpour.. we were able to get stock and super stock a run.. and then race was called due to weather..
well, this morning it is VERY VERY windy.. they have changed it to 1/8 mile racing and have decided that its FAIR that all .90 classes get a shot on 1/8 mile and stock and super stock will go straight into eliminations... REALLY?!? Conditions have changed since then and the whole race set up has changed going from 1/4 to 1/8... but the reasoning given was its fair because they have computers so that makes it fair.... I am sorry.. just dont agree.. we paid the same price as everyone else to be here, and while I understand delays, I think that stock and super stock should be allowed one run to hit the 1/8 mile..... one more reason why I HATE division 2 racing sometimes!!!! Thoughts?!?

Chad Rhodes · 03-04-2012, 03:20 PM

I think if you have good data, dialing 1/8 mile is not a challenge. However the super classes an index classes will have to make actual setup changes to hit their 1/8 index. There's gonna be a whole lot less time on the stop for a lot of cars in the super classes.

That said, it would have been nice to give everyone a shot today.

FlyingW · 03-04-2012, 03:24 PM

I agree, the problem is that stock and super stock have been in trailers for over 24 hours... conditions have changed drastically.. I mean it was about 70 degrees yesterday, muggy, and rainy.. it was sprinkling during the stock and super stock divisions yesterday.. lol then today we have 48 degrees and 30mph winds... and low humidity... and NO DATA!! Insane.. I understand giving everyone a run... but all the other classes are getting 2 or 3 and we are getting NONE...

Mike Carr · 03-04-2012, 03:24 PM

Chad beat me to it. There are differences in throttle-stop timing to run 5.70 1/8 mile and 8.90 1/4 mile. If I can find an example, I'll post it.

*edit* From the Div 4 LODRS, they are running 1/4 mile there at Houston.. Three Super Gas cars just ran. Their Indexes are 6.30 and 9.90. The three cars just ran 6.892/9.873; 6.975/9.894; 6.815/9.939. Oh, and a Super Comp (5.70 and 8.90) just ran 6.129 and 8.900.

Different setting to run the two Indexes, based on 1/8 mile race vs 1/4 mile race; hence the need for an additional time trial.

Then again, if they dropped the silly timers and stuff from the cars, there'd be no need for additional time trials. That should get me flamed...

Chad Rhodes · 03-04-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingW

I agree, the problem is that stock and super stock have been in trailers for over 24 hours... conditions have changed drastically.. I mean it was about 70 degrees yesterday, muggy, and rainy.. it was sprinkling during the stock and super stock divisions yesterday.. lol then today we have 48 degrees and 30mph winds... and low humidity... and NO DATA!! Insane.. I understand giving everyone a run... but all the other classes are getting 2 or 3 and we are getting NONE...

It suck if you don't have good data for it or if you have a new combo, and ye everyone should have gotten one shot if some are getting several.

FlyingW · 03-04-2012, 03:29 PM

But for a lot of stock and super stock there are differences when dealing with this kind of weather changes as well... EVERYONE should be able to get ONE run at least.. not 2 or three to certain classes... if they have time to have that many runs then everyone could have had at least 1 with no issues... its not our fault that we race without a computer... we should not be penalized for them having to rely on one.. make them guess about it for once.. we are always the ones that get the raw end of the deal when it comes to time runs..

countrypuppy4865 · 03-04-2012, 03:30 PM

Mike here's your example in sc big mph car will probably run way slower than 5.70 st the 1/8 to run 8.90 and a low mph car will run way faster than 5.70 to run 8.90

SCohen · 03-04-2012, 03:32 PM

TD TS and comp got 1 only on a very green track should be safer for you guys

FlyingW · 03-04-2012, 03:34 PM

I get that they need it for throttle stops but EVERYONE should be given ONE... that would have been fair.. given the situations with weather..
I know super street got more than one... why? That makes no sense.. Why one category over another.. stock and super stock will not get ANY today.... one would have been better than none..

James Perrone · 03-04-2012, 04:46 PM

Not hard for you to figure out .. dail THE INDEX..cause you cant run it
Stop crying everyones in the same boat

03-04-2012, 03:14 PM	#1
FlyingW Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Frostproof, Fl. Posts: 450 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Live from VALDOSTA... lol are you kidding So riddle me this Batman... we are sitting here at Valdosta... its 2:10 pm and so far this is what the situation is... yesterday as everyone knows it was a huge downpour.. we were able to get stock and super stock a run.. and then race was called due to weather.. well, this morning it is VERY VERY windy.. they have changed it to 1/8 mile racing and have decided that its FAIR that all .90 classes get a shot on 1/8 mile and stock and super stock will go straight into eliminations... REALLY?!? Conditions have changed since then and the whole race set up has changed going from 1/4 to 1/8... but the reasoning given was its fair because they have computers so that makes it fair.... I am sorry.. just dont agree.. we paid the same price as everyone else to be here, and while I understand delays, I think that stock and super stock should be allowed one run to hit the 1/8 mile..... one more reason why I HATE division 2 racing sometimes!!!! Thoughts?!?

03-04-2012, 03:20 PM	#2
Chad Rhodes VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Where the Green Grass Grows, AL Posts: 2,375 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Live from VALDOSTA... lol are you kidding I think if you have good data, dialing 1/8 mile is not a challenge. However the super classes an index classes will have to make actual setup changes to hit their 1/8 index. There's gonna be a whole lot less time on the stop for a lot of cars in the super classes. That said, it would have been nice to give everyone a shot today. __________________ Chad Rhodes 2113 I/SA

03-04-2012, 03:24 PM	#3
FlyingW Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Frostproof, Fl. Posts: 450 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Live from VALDOSTA... lol are you kidding I agree, the problem is that stock and super stock have been in trailers for over 24 hours... conditions have changed drastically.. I mean it was about 70 degrees yesterday, muggy, and rainy.. it was sprinkling during the stock and super stock divisions yesterday.. lol then today we have 48 degrees and 30mph winds... and low humidity... and NO DATA!! Insane.. I understand giving everyone a run... but all the other classes are getting 2 or 3 and we are getting NONE...

03-04-2012, 03:24 PM	#4
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 80 Times in 34 Posts	Re: Live from VALDOSTA... lol are you kidding Chad beat me to it. There are differences in throttle-stop timing to run 5.70 1/8 mile and 8.90 1/4 mile. If I can find an example, I'll post it. edit From the Div 4 LODRS, they are running 1/4 mile there at Houston.. Three Super Gas cars just ran. Their Indexes are 6.30 and 9.90. The three cars just ran 6.892/9.873; 6.975/9.894; 6.815/9.939. Oh, and a Super Comp (5.70 and 8.90) just ran 6.129 and 8.900. Different setting to run the two Indexes, based on 1/8 mile race vs 1/4 mile race; hence the need for an additional time trial. Then again, if they dropped the silly timers and stuff from the cars, there'd be no need for additional time trials. That should get me flamed... __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912 Last edited by Mike Carr; 03-04-2012 at 03:33 PM.

03-04-2012, 03:29 PM	#6
FlyingW Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Frostproof, Fl. Posts: 450 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Live from VALDOSTA... lol are you kidding But for a lot of stock and super stock there are differences when dealing with this kind of weather changes as well... EVERYONE should be able to get ONE run at least.. not 2 or three to certain classes... if they have time to have that many runs then everyone could have had at least 1 with no issues... its not our fault that we race without a computer... we should not be penalized for them having to rely on one.. make them guess about it for once.. we are always the ones that get the raw end of the deal when it comes to time runs..

03-04-2012, 03:30 PM	#7
countrypuppy4865 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Donaldsonville, LA Posts: 969 Likes: 8 Liked 184 Times in 63 Posts	Re: Live from VALDOSTA... lol are you kidding Mike here's your example in sc big mph car will probably run way slower than 5.70 st the 1/8 to run 8.90 and a low mph car will run way faster than 5.70 to run 8.90 __________________ Jimmy "Cooter" Hidalgo, Jr. 4865 E/SA '04 GTO 4865 SS/GA '99 Firebird

03-04-2012, 03:32 PM	#8
SCohen Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: FL Posts: 17 Likes: 6 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: Live from VALDOSTA... lol are you kidding TD TS and comp got 1 only on a very green track should be safer for you guys

03-04-2012, 03:34 PM	#9
FlyingW Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Frostproof, Fl. Posts: 450 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Live from VALDOSTA... lol are you kidding I get that they need it for throttle stops but EVERYONE should be given ONE... that would have been fair.. given the situations with weather.. I know super street got more than one... why? That makes no sense.. Why one category over another.. stock and super stock will not get ANY today.... one would have been better than none.. Last edited by FlyingW; 03-04-2012 at 03:39 PM.

03-04-2012, 04:46 PM	#10
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,605 Likes: 2,959 Liked 1,636 Times in 384 Posts	Re: Live from VALDOSTA... lol are you kidding Not hard for you to figure out .. dail THE INDEX..cause you cant run it Stop crying everyones in the same boat __________________ james perrone 1290 STK