396 - 375 stocker combo

Ian Hill · 12-30-2011, 09:57 AM

i am thinking of speeding things in my camp! one of the options i am considering is going to the 396 combo. i want to be NHRA legal this time as well as IHRA. Looking at the NHRA site i can not tell what aftermarket aluminum heads would be legal for the stock combination? While we are it, what carb would be required. Thanks

Ian

Mickey Whaley · 12-30-2011, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian Hill

i am thinking of speeding things in my camp! one of the options i am considering is going to the 396 combo. i want to be NHRA legal this time as well as IHRA. Looking at the NHRA site i can not tell what aftermarket aluminum heads would be legal for the stock combination? While we are it, what carb would be required. Thanks

Ian

I have one for sale give me a call have carbs conv whatever you need the carb is a 780 my # is 252-560-1176 mickey

Adger Smith · 12-30-2011, 10:30 AM

Ian,
Not enough info. Need to know year and mod of car you plan to use or claim.
The alum head for some cars can be a stock GM (number specific for make and mod) or the Edelbrock 401 casting. Edelborck head usually carries a weight penalty. The carb number will show in the classification guide. (blueprint specs) You don't have to use the specific carb number any more, but it has to be same make with the venturi and throttle bores that match the legal numbered carb.
Those numbers show up in the guide, too.

Jim Cimarolli · 12-30-2011, 10:49 AM

Might also keep in mind that if you have a '68 Camaro, you can only run that combo with a stick.

Alan Roehrich · 12-30-2011, 11:01 AM

What Jim said. And if you're going to run a stick, the iron head is the ticket.

Mickey does have some good pieces, his car runs.

Ian Hill · 12-30-2011, 11:27 AM

Aaaah, i missed the stick part. Heres what i'd like to do: 1968 Camaro stocker with an automatic that runs 9.90 to 10.1. weight is not an issue. i can get down to 2750 with an iron headed SBC and glide combo (less driver), 2990 with driver minimum (6ft 4" 240lbs driver....stop the snickering). I'd like it to be NHRA legal as i could do what i am trying to accomplish very easily with a fastburn IHRA combo.

what about small tire super stock. is that legal in NHRA too? is it legit to put a super stock legal motor and carb in front of a trans brake glide and call it a GT/ what-ever-the-f-it-is auto super stocker?

Ian

Adger Smith · 12-30-2011, 11:38 AM

Yes, you could run it as a Big Block GT/ SS.. whatever, but those cars take a beating from the frontwheel drive conversions in GT. You can also do it as a Small block. I'm not sure if the SB GT classes are as bad as the BB.
also: I dont snicker at guys my size. :~)
It is tough to get all of me out of some cars.
I love those swing out door bars.

Alan Roehrich · 12-30-2011, 11:42 AM

You're not going to run that number with an NHRA legal Stock Eliminator 68 Camaro with an automatic transmission.

Yes, you can run GT classes with an early Camaro. Just do not expect to be competitive, you'll be up against late model stuff that is small, light, and slippery.

The fastest automatic combination in Stock for you would probably be a 396/350, but it won't run 10 flat.

You could possibly run the 396/350 automatic combination on a 9" tire in Super Stock. You'll need a full cage,and you'll work real hard to make it work.

Honestly, the iron head 396/375 stick in Stock is the way to go in order to run the number you want to run.

Mike Savelle · 12-30-2011, 02:01 PM

Ian you have all the parts to go 10.00 that i sold you 350 /290/ ? with a glide . And I sure would like that 1.2 under crate motor you have .......... Mike

Ian Hill · 12-30-2011, 04:52 PM

i was looking for a stock combo before i looked into the ss possibilities. i assume i could run a bit quicker yet with the combo i have just by pumping up the tires and going to a lighter weight oil, but i was looking for for a bracket setup 10, rather than an on-kill 10 program.

Ian

12-30-2011, 09:57 AM	#1
Ian Hill Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 216 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 3 Posts	396 - 375 stocker combo i am thinking of speeding things in my camp! one of the options i am considering is going to the 396 combo. i want to be NHRA legal this time as well as IHRA. Looking at the NHRA site i can not tell what aftermarket aluminum heads would be legal for the stock combination? While we are it, what carb would be required. Thanks Ian

12-30-2011, 10:30 AM	#3
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,364 Likes: 461 Liked 694 Times in 270 Posts	Re: 396 - 375 stocker combo Ian, Not enough info. Need to know year and mod of car you plan to use or claim. The alum head for some cars can be a stock GM (number specific for make and mod) or the Edelbrock 401 casting. Edelborck head usually carries a weight penalty. The carb number will show in the classification guide. (blueprint specs) You don't have to use the specific carb number any more, but it has to be same make with the venturi and throttle bores that match the legal numbered carb. Those numbers show up in the guide, too. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

12-30-2011, 10:49 AM	#4
Jim Cimarolli Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sulphur Springs Texas Posts: 736 Likes: 118 Liked 155 Times in 44 Posts	Re: 396 - 375 stocker combo Might also keep in mind that if you have a '68 Camaro, you can only run that combo with a stick.

12-30-2011, 11:01 AM	#5
Alan Roehrich VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 4,951 Likes: 1,044 Liked 1,126 Times in 297 Posts	Re: 396 - 375 stocker combo What Jim said. And if you're going to run a stick, the iron head is the ticket. Mickey does have some good pieces, his car runs. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S Last edited by Alan Roehrich; 12-30-2011 at 11:14 AM.

12-30-2011, 11:27 AM	#6
Ian Hill Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 216 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 396 - 375 stocker combo Aaaah, i missed the stick part. Heres what i'd like to do: 1968 Camaro stocker with an automatic that runs 9.90 to 10.1. weight is not an issue. i can get down to 2750 with an iron headed SBC and glide combo (less driver), 2990 with driver minimum (6ft 4" 240lbs driver....stop the snickering). I'd like it to be NHRA legal as i could do what i am trying to accomplish very easily with a fastburn IHRA combo. what about small tire super stock. is that legal in NHRA too? is it legit to put a super stock legal motor and carb in front of a trans brake glide and call it a GT/ what-ever-the-f-it-is auto super stocker? Ian

12-30-2011, 11:38 AM	#7
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,364 Likes: 461 Liked 694 Times in 270 Posts	Re: 396 - 375 stocker combo Yes, you could run it as a Big Block GT/ SS.. whatever, but those cars take a beating from the frontwheel drive conversions in GT. You can also do it as a Small block. I'm not sure if the SB GT classes are as bad as the BB. also: I dont snicker at guys my size. :~) It is tough to get all of me out of some cars. I love those swing out door bars. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

12-30-2011, 11:42 AM	#8
Alan Roehrich VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 4,951 Likes: 1,044 Liked 1,126 Times in 297 Posts	Re: 396 - 375 stocker combo You're not going to run that number with an NHRA legal Stock Eliminator 68 Camaro with an automatic transmission. Yes, you can run GT classes with an early Camaro. Just do not expect to be competitive, you'll be up against late model stuff that is small, light, and slippery. The fastest automatic combination in Stock for you would probably be a 396/350, but it won't run 10 flat. You could possibly run the 396/350 automatic combination on a 9" tire in Super Stock. You'll need a full cage,and you'll work real hard to make it work. Honestly, the iron head 396/375 stick in Stock is the way to go in order to run the number you want to run. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

12-30-2011, 02:01 PM	#9
Mike Savelle Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 363 Likes: 113 Liked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Re: 396 - 375 stocker combo Ian you have all the parts to go 10.00 that i sold you 350 /290/ ? with a glide . And I sure would like that 1.2 under crate motor you have .......... Mike

12-30-2011, 04:52 PM	#10
Ian Hill Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 216 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 396 - 375 stocker combo i was looking for a stock combo before i looked into the ss possibilities. i assume i could run a bit quicker yet with the combo i have just by pumping up the tires and going to a lighter weight oil, but i was looking for for a bracket setup 10, rather than an on-kill 10 program. Ian