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Old 05-31-2011, 06:22 PM   #1
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Default Traction compound and tracks that hook.

I received an e-mail from a fellow racer that feels like we should call track operators and ask what traction compound they are using before making a long trip to a race only to be disappointed by a lousy race track. After being in Bowling Green this weekend and seeing how well a properly prepared race track can be I have to say i agree with him. Bowling Green uses VHT exclusively and the racing surface was unbelievable this weekend. I was on the starting line quite a bit and didn't see anyone spin at all this weekend. It was 93 degrees on Sunday and the sun was beating down on the race track,track temp had to be at least 130.

Contrast this with Indy a few weeks ago where the starting line was very marginal and several racers spun badly in the first or second round. First time trial Saturday morning I had a 2.74 60'. A nice young lady that works for the track came by my pit space and asked if I was coming back to the combo race the next weekend. I told her I wouldn't be back next weekend and she wanted to know why. I very plainly said because you have a crappy starting line.

The point I'm trying to make is that Bowling Green was using VHT traction compound and when you walked out on the starting line it would pull your shoe off. Indy was using VP and it was about like the concrete floor in a garage. It wasn't sticky at all. All you track operators that are trying to save money on your traction compound just remember the worst thing that can happen to a race track is to get a reputation for a crappy starting line. Nothing will hurt you worse except for some one stealing all your money at the gate.
Oh by the way Indy had 5 cars for their big combo race and Bowling Green had 98.
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Old 05-31-2011, 06:31 PM   #2
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Default Re: Traction compound and tracks that hook.

It's not always just the traction compound material. Newest issue of Drag Racing Action magazine has a two-part story on track prep. Should be out on the newsstands in about a week.
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Old 05-31-2011, 07:03 PM   #3
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It's not always just the traction compound material. Newest issue of Drag Racing Action magazine has a two-part story on track prep. Should be out on the newsstands in about a week.
John I just go by personal experience. The places that use VHT and know how to mix it are almost always good. I do realize there are other issues that can come into play but I have been to too many race tracks lately that have been using VP and its smooth and black with no stick.
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Old 05-31-2011, 08:24 PM   #4
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Default Re: Traction compound and tracks that hook.

Greg, what does Ohio Valley use? We are planning on coming to the combo race on Saturday and it is supposed to be hot.
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90° ambient and full sun at No Problem and....................
NO PROBLEM HOOKING.

Nice Job Guys.

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Old 05-31-2011, 08:59 PM   #6
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Default Re: Traction compound and tracks that hook.

I've seen subtle changes over the years, and people have adapted or become accustomed to what they can and cannot accomplish. I've been to some tracks where people just raved about the incredible traction, whereas I noticed a number of cars having problems, prompting me to think, "So that's what passes for incredible traction these days..."

On a somewhat related note, I STILL see people leave the line trailing rocks, sand, and debris out of their rocker panels, dumping it right in front of their own slicks. Clean your wheel wells in the staging lanes, or do something to prevent debris from collecting there in the first place.
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Old 05-31-2011, 09:07 PM   #7
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90° ambient and full sun at No Problem and....................
NO PROBLEM HOOKING.

Nice Job Guys.

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Okay it hooks, so tell us what they use at No Problem. Inquiring minds want to know.

Looks like Greg is trying to make a point. Who uses VP and who uses VHT? Enough data and racers will decide where to race based on the traction compound used there. Then maybe some track operators will sit up, take notice, and quit listening to snake oil salesmen.
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Old 05-31-2011, 09:40 PM   #8
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Default Re: Traction compound and tracks that hook.

Maybe you should just ask if they prep the track properly? I have been down some good working tracks with VP LC7 prep. It doesn't matter what is put on the track if it isn't done correctly, it wont work. LC7 works just as good if not better in the heat than VHT does.
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Default Re: Traction compound and tracks that hook.

There was no reason to go away from VHT except for one HUGE problem, the EPA. Ya can't use the good stuff anymore according to them, I believe it's alcohol based. The tracks that do are "getting away" with it, hope they can stick (pun intended) with it for as long as they can.

The accepted stuff is a problem , it seems to me, because ya can't run on a cold track anymore and it's marginal in the heat. It's caused more scheduling problems lately where racing is holted or postponed until we get "heat into the track" in the mornings and after dark.

National events have been using the new shyt for years now and in case ya haven't noticed it has caused all kinds of issues. Nascar was using it in pit lane as well but they can't use it either, seen 'em spraying coke down for a while!!
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Default Re: Traction compound and tracks that hook.

I was doing a job at this woman's house awhile back and should have asked what she used on her kitchen floor. Man, it was sticky! Almost pulled the shoes off my feet.
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