Car/motor/class question

65hardtop · 07-11-2010, 02:21 PM

Can I put a class legal race hemi in a 65 coronet hard top and fit into a super stock class? Like modified or an X class?

Stephen & Horace Johnson · 07-11-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 65hardtop

Can I put a class legal race hemi in a 65 coronet hard top and fit into a super stock class? Like modified or an X class?

you will be in a GT class. In superstock now you can run any engine in your car, but has to be of the same make of course.

Mike Carr · 07-11-2010, 03:02 PM

I believe, to the best of my knowledge, all the factory '65 Plymouth/Dodge Hemi cars were post cars. There are a few '64 hardtop Hemis. You would have to check with someone who would know better than I do.

65hardtop · 07-11-2010, 09:01 PM

Thanks for the replies guys. Can you run hood scoops in gt classes? And does anyone know off the top of their head what gt class a 65 dodge coronet hardtop would be In with a hemi. It would basicly be a ss/aa car that's a hardtop insted of a post.

ss3011 · 07-11-2010, 10:13 PM

If it would fit ,the car would have to weigh 4170 plus to make it into GT/AA.

Mike Carr · 07-12-2010, 10:22 AM

If the engine used, in a GT configuration, came with ram-air/hood scoop, yes it's permited. If not, then no. Case in point. 1998 Firebird with a 1997 LS-1 engine in GT = hood scoop allowed. 1998 Firebird with a 1969 Chevy 350/295 = scoop must be blocked off, or flat hood used. As ss3011 said, the weight break for GT/AA is 8 pounds, same as SS/EA. 4,170 pound GT/AA car, using a Race Hemi @ 500 HP. There are better engine options out there to use, I'd think. The 1970 Dodge 383 looks good, 330 factory, but NHRA rated at 304. Staci Smith has one in a '93 Daytona, runs 9.60's. Talk to Jeff Tueton, I think he and Sid Bonnecarrere use a 383 or smaller motor in SS/GT in a '68 Cuda, with the factory SS/AH-type hood scoop (I think it's a 360 in GT/FA).

65hardtop · 04-23-2011, 10:14 PM

What if I wanted to run this combination in a modified class? Anyone know if I can?

Stewart Way · 04-24-2011, 11:08 AM

You can run the car in modified, A is 7.5 X CID. Bob Marshall runs an older Dodge in Modified sometimes. It opens the scoop/intake to other choices as well as alum Mopar heads.
Think the single 4 race hemi is a post only in the Dodge but a post or hardtop in the Plymouth. Strange.
As far as the hoodscoop in GT , I was told by Bruce Bachelder that a scoop can't be added to a car, it had to be available with one so since your 65 hardtop was not available with a scoop you can't run a scoop in GT. A 383 shaker can use the scoop in the 68 Cuda and Dart but not the Valiant. Thats the last I heard.

65hardtop · 04-25-2011, 10:17 AM

Looks like it would have to be a modified class car. Doesn't look like it would fit any gt class. We have a motor and a car. We just need to put the cage in the car. It would probably be pretty slow for a modified class car though. But I really just wanna bracket race it. Not looking to win class. I'm guessing it would run 9.50's with that motor in it. Most mods run in the 8's don't they?

65hardtop · 04-25-2011, 10:19 AM

I'm not sure if it would fit mod either. Dang it!!! Looks like I'll have to build the 383 up for ss/ja.

07-11-2010, 02:21 PM	#1
65hardtop Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 18 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Car/motor/class question Can I put a class legal race hemi in a 65 coronet hard top and fit into a super stock class? Like modified or an X class?

07-11-2010, 03:02 PM	#3
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 81 Times in 35 Posts	Re: Car/motor/class question I believe, to the best of my knowledge, all the factory '65 Plymouth/Dodge Hemi cars were post cars. There are a few '64 hardtop Hemis. You would have to check with someone who would know better than I do. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

07-11-2010, 09:01 PM	#4
65hardtop Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 18 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Car/motor/class question Thanks for the replies guys. Can you run hood scoops in gt classes? And does anyone know off the top of their head what gt class a 65 dodge coronet hardtop would be In with a hemi. It would basicly be a ss/aa car that's a hardtop insted of a post.

07-11-2010, 10:13 PM	#5
ss3011 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 900 Likes: 67 Liked 238 Times in 112 Posts	Re: Car/motor/class question If it would fit ,the car would have to weigh 4170 plus to make it into GT/AA.

07-12-2010, 10:22 AM	#6
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 81 Times in 35 Posts	Re: Car/motor/class question If the engine used, in a GT configuration, came with ram-air/hood scoop, yes it's permited. If not, then no. Case in point. 1998 Firebird with a 1997 LS-1 engine in GT = hood scoop allowed. 1998 Firebird with a 1969 Chevy 350/295 = scoop must be blocked off, or flat hood used. As ss3011 said, the weight break for GT/AA is 8 pounds, same as SS/EA. 4,170 pound GT/AA car, using a Race Hemi @ 500 HP. There are better engine options out there to use, I'd think. The 1970 Dodge 383 looks good, 330 factory, but NHRA rated at 304. Staci Smith has one in a '93 Daytona, runs 9.60's. Talk to Jeff Tueton, I think he and Sid Bonnecarrere use a 383 or smaller motor in SS/GT in a '68 Cuda, with the factory SS/AH-type hood scoop (I think it's a 360 in GT/FA). __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

04-23-2011, 10:14 PM	#7
65hardtop Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 18 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Car/motor/class question What if I wanted to run this combination in a modified class? Anyone know if I can?

04-24-2011, 11:08 AM	#8
Stewart Way Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 476 Likes: 18 Liked 71 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Car/motor/class question You can run the car in modified, A is 7.5 X CID. Bob Marshall runs an older Dodge in Modified sometimes. It opens the scoop/intake to other choices as well as alum Mopar heads. Think the single 4 race hemi is a post only in the Dodge but a post or hardtop in the Plymouth. Strange. As far as the hoodscoop in GT , I was told by Bruce Bachelder that a scoop can't be added to a car, it had to be available with one so since your 65 hardtop was not available with a scoop you can't run a scoop in GT. A 383 shaker can use the scoop in the 68 Cuda and Dart but not the Valiant. Thats the last I heard. __________________ Stewart Way 2424 SS

04-25-2011, 10:17 AM	#9
65hardtop Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 18 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Car/motor/class question Looks like it would have to be a modified class car. Doesn't look like it would fit any gt class. We have a motor and a car. We just need to put the cage in the car. It would probably be pretty slow for a modified class car though. But I really just wanna bracket race it. Not looking to win class. I'm guessing it would run 9.50's with that motor in it. Most mods run in the 8's don't they?

04-25-2011, 10:19 AM	#10
65hardtop Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 18 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Car/motor/class question I'm not sure if it would fit mod either. Dang it!!! Looks like I'll have to build the 383 up for ss/ja. Last edited by 65hardtop; 04-25-2011 at 10:55 AM.