Cobra Jet article in NY Times

Dave Kommel · 03-08-2009, 06:13 PM

Today's New York Times ran 2 articles today, both in print and online about the new Cobra Jets and the '60s factory race cars still running.

Purpose-Built, and Still on the Track

Racecars Fresh Off the Assembly Line

BTW, former drag racer Norman Mayersohn is the deputy editor of the Times' automotive section.

hadtobethere · 03-08-2009, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Kommel

Today's New York Times ran 2 articles today, both in print and online about the new Cobra Jets and the '60s factory race cars still running.

Purpose-Built, and Still on the Track

Racecars Fresh Off the Assembly Line

BTW, former drag racer Norman Mayersohn is the deputy editor of the Times' automotive section.

thanks...the "Racecars Fresh Off the Assembly Line" ....great article

bill dedman · 03-08-2009, 09:58 PM

I thought this quote of a comment by John Calvert, driver of the Winternationals-winning Cobra Jet was interesting, coming from the "horse's mouth," as it were....

And, I quote:

"Racing-specific equipment that has been added includes a supercharged 5.4-liter V-8 rated at 425 horsepower. Mr. Calvert said he could squeeze 700 out of it “with just a few simple tune-up tricks.” It also comes with a 6-speed manual transmission (an automatic is optional), an explosion-proof clutch housing and racing brakes.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................................

Bill

GUMP · 03-08-2009, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dedman

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................................

Bill

So, what's your point? That 700 HP number is the same as someone quoted for a 427 in one of the other threads.

bill dedman · 03-08-2009, 11:27 PM

Anybody can post anything they want on this board with little or no verification. The validity of comments from "joe racer," or even moreso, from people like ME (who don't race a Class car) mean very little, because you never know where that information originated.

But, when the guy who actually drove the winning Cobra Jet says it, it takes on a whole new meaning.

John Calvert is not someone who throws around numbers (especially, in a case like this) without having the ability to back them up.

THAT's the difference; hearsay vs. what is very likely, factual information, (based on its source.)

.Now, I'm convinced.

Bruce Noland · 03-09-2009, 06:22 AM

Gump,
There is absolutely no 427 Stocker on the planet that can make 700 HP. Who made that comment? Bill's point is well taken. The Ford supporters have been shuffling around that 700+ HP figure for months, and now Calvert comes out with the truth. Good for him. Calvert's remarks line up with the Ford guys at SEMA and FRP. John Calvert does not throw around numbers easily. He has been very measured with his responses until now. So don't fall for that old hearsay stuff. Now there is no pot to stir!

junior barns · 03-09-2009, 05:00 PM

Arnold Greene posted what his 427 numbers were. I think it was 598HP. I would put his stuff up against anybody!! Far cry from 700+!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

goinbroke2 · 03-09-2009, 07:23 PM

And yet ANOTHER thread degenerates into a CJ bash by the same few......

Come on Challenger, hurry up and get here to give them something new to yang about.

Better yet, come on camaro! Give them something positive and maybe they will see a glass half full instead of the "gm going in the crapper so I hate everything else" glass half empty attitude.

For the record, I thought it was good because;
1) it showed some positive news for a domestic auto maker and
2) because the NY times is normally VERY anti domestic. Their stories usually have casual nuances like "of course being a japanese car the quality is much better" or blatent "gm/chrysler should go bankrupt because...."

ANY POSITIVE NEWS IS GOOD! Involving classracing just makes it better.
Oh wait, it's not because it's a ford...I forgot...yeah ok...

bigshow2966 · 03-09-2009, 08:55 PM

I just looked at the national records for AA/S, A/S, B/S, C/S, AA/SA, A/SA, B/SA, and C/SA. All those classes that had a record were a 67-69 Chevy or Ford. Not an '08 CJ or any Hemi in the bunch.

junior barns · 03-09-2009, 11:04 PM

goinbroke2

No bashing here!!! Just stating facts as Mr. Calvert( and he of all people) knows the true potential of this combo. 427/425 chev 600hp, the new CJ Well read the quote again.

"Racing-specific equipment that has been added includes a supercharged 5.4-liter V-8 rated at 425 horsepower. Mr. Calvert said he could squeeze 700 out of it “with just a few simple tune-up tricks.” It also comes with a 6-speed manual transmission (an automatic is optional), an explosion-proof clutch housing and racing brakes

If NHRA and Ford wanted these cars to play in Stock then put them in a class of there own and let the manufacturers show all who can build the baddest stocker of all!

if anyone with an old comb wanted to jump in with them they would have that option!!

Absolutely no sour grapes here just my 2 cents worth

03-08-2009, 06:13 PM	#1
Dave Kommel Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Dimas CA Posts: 143 Likes: 2 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Cobra Jet article in NY Times Today's New York Times ran 2 articles today, both in print and online about the new Cobra Jets and the '60s factory race cars still running. Purpose-Built, and Still on the Track Racecars Fresh Off the Assembly Line BTW, former drag racer Norman Mayersohn is the deputy editor of the Times' automotive section. __________________ Dave Kommel

03-08-2009, 09:58 PM	#3
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Cobra Jet article in NY Times I thought this quote of a comment by John Calvert, driver of the Winternationals-winning Cobra Jet was interesting, coming from the "horse's mouth," as it were.... And, I quote: "Racing-specific equipment that has been added includes a supercharged 5.4-liter V-8 rated at 425 horsepower. Mr. Calvert said he could squeeze 700 out of it “with just a few simple tune-up tricks.” It also comes with a 6-speed manual transmission (an automatic is optional), an explosion-proof clutch housing and racing brakes. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................................. Bill __________________ Bill

03-08-2009, 11:27 PM	#5
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Cobra Jet article in NY Times Anybody can post anything they want on this board with little or no verification. The validity of comments from "joe racer," or even moreso, from people like ME (who don't race a Class car) mean very little, because you never know where that information originated. But, when the guy who actually drove the winning Cobra Jet says it, it takes on a whole new meaning. John Calvert is not someone who throws around numbers (especially, in a case like this) without having the ability to back them up. THAT's the difference; hearsay vs. what is very likely, factual information, (based on its source.) .Now, I'm convinced. __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 03-08-2009 at 11:32 PM.

03-09-2009, 06:22 AM	#6
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Cobra Jet article in NY Times Gump, There is absolutely no 427 Stocker on the planet that can make 700 HP. Who made that comment? Bill's point is well taken. The Ford supporters have been shuffling around that 700+ HP figure for months, and now Calvert comes out with the truth. Good for him. Calvert's remarks line up with the Ford guys at SEMA and FRP. John Calvert does not throw around numbers easily. He has been very measured with his responses until now. So don't fall for that old hearsay stuff. Now there is no pot to stir! __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK Last edited by Bruce Noland; 03-09-2009 at 08:11 AM.

03-09-2009, 05:00 PM	#7
junior barns Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 539 Likes: 11 Liked 20 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Cobra Jet article in NY Times Arnold Greene posted what his 427 numbers were. I think it was 598HP. I would put his stuff up against anybody!! Far cry from 700+!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

03-09-2009, 07:23 PM	#8
goinbroke2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NS CANADA Posts: 706 Likes: 589 Liked 174 Times in 60 Posts	Re: Cobra Jet article in NY Times And yet ANOTHER thread degenerates into a CJ bash by the same few...... Come on Challenger, hurry up and get here to give them something new to yang about. Better yet, come on camaro! Give them something positive and maybe they will see a glass half full instead of the "gm going in the crapper so I hate everything else" glass half empty attitude. For the record, I thought it was good because; 1) it showed some positive news for a domestic auto maker and 2) because the NY times is normally VERY anti domestic. Their stories usually have casual nuances like "of course being a japanese car the quality is much better" or blatent "gm/chrysler should go bankrupt because...." ANY POSITIVE NEWS IS GOOD! Involving classracing just makes it better. Oh wait, it's not because it's a ford...I forgot...yeah ok... Last edited by goinbroke2; 03-09-2009 at 07:27 PM.

03-09-2009, 08:55 PM	#9
bigshow2966 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 616 Likes: 390 Liked 81 Times in 35 Posts	Re: Cobra Jet article in NY Times I just looked at the national records for AA/S, A/S, B/S, C/S, AA/SA, A/SA, B/SA, and C/SA. All those classes that had a record were a 67-69 Chevy or Ford. Not an '08 CJ or any Hemi in the bunch.

03-09-2009, 11:04 PM	#10
junior barns Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 539 Likes: 11 Liked 20 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Cobra Jet article in NY Times goinbroke2 No bashing here!!! Just stating facts as Mr. Calvert( and he of all people) knows the true potential of this combo. 427/425 chev 600hp, the new CJ Well read the quote again. "Racing-specific equipment that has been added includes a supercharged 5.4-liter V-8 rated at 425 horsepower. Mr. Calvert said he could squeeze 700 out of it “with just a few simple tune-up tricks.” It also comes with a 6-speed manual transmission (an automatic is optional), an explosion-proof clutch housing and racing brakes If NHRA and Ford wanted these cars to play in Stock then put them in a class of there own and let the manufacturers show all who can build the baddest stocker of all! if anyone with an old comb wanted to jump in with them they would have that option!! Absolutely no sour grapes here just my 2 cents worth