Is NHR Cursed or Something ?

[Rich Biebel]

David I can't really tell the story on here.

Low or weak batteries was often a problem in the past....

If you go rounds it happens...........

Gear reduction low current draw starters and alternators and good batteries are a must! Stock starters and some batteries are just junk and don't belong in rcaecars......

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

OK Chris,.....but in my old feeble mind.....all your really doing is the same thing as every other internal combustion engine with a battery powered ignition. Fire the spark at the right time with enough intensity to get a good flamefront. Hemi or not....it is moderate compression, not supercharged or turbo charged and is burning race gas. It doesn't really need anymore than any other engine. If your coils are overkill....your just wasting energy......A blisteringly hot spark is not going to make it run way faster than an adequate spark.

My Lt-1 had an MSD 7al and the box went bad. I installed a Digital 6 and the recommended coil.......The spark it could generate was as I said......more than enough to fire any sparkplug in any stocker engine........



Art.....I have no doubt your combination is somewhat different but it's a Turbo and a small engine......so I would think it is very sensitive to small changes.......


I have a story I can tell about MSD's needing a minimum of xx volts to fire but just to make the story short........lets just say that I have made runs down the race track with a very low battery and no misfires whatsoever.......One of those runs was the final round of a National event......

Rich you have no trouble knocking Drooze for his lack of class racing experience.
I would suggest you read a rule book before commenting about my car.

[Rich Biebel]

Art I don't know why your feeling like I said something wrong about your car.....all I meant was it's a very different combo and might be effected more than others on some things.


I try to have fun with Drooze......if you think I'm being harsh.....so be it......

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

Art I don't know why your feeling like I said something wrong about your car.....all I meant was it's a very different combo and might be effected more than others on some things.


I try to have fun with Drooze......if you think I'm being harsh.....so be it......

You did say something very wrong about my car.
Read a rule book

[Tim Kish]

Art - I think your turbo is broke, your car should go much faster!

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

Art I don't know why your feeling like I said something wrong about your car.....all I meant was it's a very different combo and might be effected more than others on some things.


I try to have fun with Drooze......if you think I'm being harsh.....so be it......

No prob Rich I know and I know its not meant in a nasty way...

I typed up a whole long tech explanation last night and the browser froze.

Arts car isnt a Turbo, and basically he runs the same system but half, 4 of em , we even have the same crank trigger.

What it boils down to is, in our coils, each (the Hemi) there are 2 windings....1 for each plug. So that in itself takes double the juice each cyl fire, (2 plugs per cyl) Now, we didnt listen in the beginning and figured a 12v system would be adequate we heard about half on each side.....so we figured wed try for 12v....well since then the other half has defected to 16v because the issues with juice, starts, rough runs, etc.

Now , our 20 amp igniters, which suck over double the juice of the 8amp igniters well, they cure the run problems, but dont help the start issues at all....and can make it worse since you dont see or feel it coming.

We had 20+ starts and pit runs, warmups, tech, staging, scales, etc when we were last a nostart.

2 min on a charger would have saved us....but well too many frantic moments and no juice , our generator was down.

So live and learn, Id like to go back to the 8 amp igniters because of EM noise, then I could just go 16v like all the other DP's have found is pretty much a neccesity (or two batts)......

Cheers

Chris...

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Tim Kish

Art - I think your turbo is broke, your car should go much faster!

Tim "my" turbo runs fine but I only get 8 or 9 mpg with it.

[Tim Kish]

Originally Posted by art leong

Tim "my" turbo runs fine but I only get 8 or 9 mpg with it.

Thanks to your hard work over the winter I need a bigger Turbo and maybe some Nitrous. I'll call ya later.

[Rich Biebel]

OH..I get it....It's not a Turbo......Maybe I had to many beers when I typed that reply......

For some reason I thought it was a Stock type engine that came with a Turbo.....My bad....

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

OH..I get it....It's not a Turbo......Maybe I had to many beers when I typed that reply......

For some reason I thought it was a Stock type engine that came with a Turbo.....My bad....

The only car in Superstock (not pure SS) that is allowed to run a turbo is SS/DX.
My stocker with a turbo ran near as fast as my superstocker.
Did you think I was that incompetant?