Mikronite - Page 3

buzzinhalfdozen · 03-22-2012, 09:13 AM

As usual someone seems to get off the point of the post. The question was, has anyone used it?, Did they see any gains? What was the cost? I've never used any types of these treatments, I've also never had any issues with gear sets, however in the quest to find every last hundreth I would certainly consider trying it. Joe

1320racer · 03-22-2012, 09:21 AM

it's not anyone one user but everyone of the 14 users that replied failed to answer all the op's specific questions...

Quote:

Originally Posted by MEXJOE

How many of you have tried the Mikronite on your ring and pinion?
How much cost?
What kind of gain (ET or MPH??
Was it worth it??

Signman · 03-22-2012, 10:03 AM

Micronite was developed here in NJ. Tested on some prominent big block modified cars and comp cars. Company was purchased by Crane. Everyone knows the Crane story. ALL the equipment is in Florida. Either it is being used by Crane now or sitting in a warehouse.
Several of those involved in testing have inquired with intent purchase some of the Micronite equipment but have not been successful.

The process is multi directional. You all have seen the polished cranks that look chromed but are not. Depending on the intended purpose the aggressiveness of abrasives and fluids added or not are determined. The "chrome" look is a multistage process.
Basically the high points which act like sand paper are removed while the valleys are retained which hold lubricant. As stated like a good cylinder hone.

In the early testing on big block modified rear gear sets: longer life and much lower operating temperatures. Less heat = less horsepower loss.

Mark Williams provides a similar treatment.
Although the REM process is also a tumbling process many of their machines are directional. May not be as good. But again it is the abrasive and fluids added along with speed and time which determine the process. Work with a company who has developed processes for the parts you would like treated.

Research Isotropic Finishing.

My own experience: Did a set of small block Chevy oil pump gears. Getting heat into oil was difficult in cooler weather. Never an issue hot lapping in the heat. Rear gears are street gears that have been in the car for 3 seasons with 4-500 runs on them. Will let you know as the cover has not been off but will very soon.

There is another process which is used in high RPM engine successfully. WPC Treatment Company. Not the same process but similar results.

www.wpctreatment.com

Have fun!

BlueOval Ralph · 03-22-2012, 11:35 AM

As remember it was the other way around they bought Crane, could be wrong in my old age

1320racer · 03-22-2012, 12:32 PM

Jim Bailey where are you?

FINESPLINE · 03-22-2012, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

As remember it was the other way around they bought Crane, could be wrong in my old age

Mikronite Technologies acquired Crane Cams in 2006 and their home office is in Eatontown, N.J.

1320racer · 03-22-2012, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Bailey

what if we picked up "your" 60' to 1.15 and your 660 by .03, as has happened

Jim, please reply, I've got $100 burning a hole in my pocket and a new R&P waiting to go to you.

Can't wait to see to a 1.15 60 foot printed on my time slip as a result of $100 worth of "Cryogenic Treatment".

Gear, Ring and Pinion
- Cryogenic Treatment
Cryogenic processing reduces wear and tooth
breakage. Greatly increases the life of the gear. $100.00

http://finishedracing.com

Jim Bailey · 03-22-2012, 03:51 PM

You're riding "the" fine line on advertising !!! (on this sight) laughing! The point is Cryo/ Rem, and Mikronite, processes work. They're well excepted. Improve part life. And increase performance. It's not black magic anymore. As a matter of fact, I promise you, many of your competitors are using it, and, have seen performance increases. JB

1320racer · 03-22-2012, 04:04 PM

so do we have a money back deal if I don't run 1.15 in 60 feet?

buzzinhalfdozen · 03-22-2012, 04:30 PM

Come on big spender, you grossed me out for not wanting to spend 125.00 to replace my perfectly good window net calling it "a drop in the bucket" now you're balking at spending 100.00 to purchase something that may actually improve your cars performance? Exactly what class is E by the way? Joe

03-22-2012, 09:13 AM	#21
buzzinhalfdozen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bellevue Ohio Posts: 985 Likes: 0 Liked 12 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Mikronite As usual someone seems to get off the point of the post. The question was, has anyone used it?, Did they see any gains? What was the cost? I've never used any types of these treatments, I've also never had any issues with gear sets, however in the quest to find every last hundreth I would certainly consider trying it. Joe __________________ Joe Buchanan SS/BX 3117

03-22-2012, 10:03 AM	#23
Signman Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lower Slower Delaware Posts: 493 Likes: 14 Liked 199 Times in 74 Posts	Re: Mikronite Micronite was developed here in NJ. Tested on some prominent big block modified cars and comp cars. Company was purchased by Crane. Everyone knows the Crane story. ALL the equipment is in Florida. Either it is being used by Crane now or sitting in a warehouse. Several of those involved in testing have inquired with intent purchase some of the Micronite equipment but have not been successful. The process is multi directional. You all have seen the polished cranks that look chromed but are not. Depending on the intended purpose the aggressiveness of abrasives and fluids added or not are determined. The "chrome" look is a multistage process. Basically the high points which act like sand paper are removed while the valleys are retained which hold lubricant. As stated like a good cylinder hone. In the early testing on big block modified rear gear sets: longer life and much lower operating temperatures. Less heat = less horsepower loss. Mark Williams provides a similar treatment. Although the REM process is also a tumbling process many of their machines are directional. May not be as good. But again it is the abrasive and fluids added along with speed and time which determine the process. Work with a company who has developed processes for the parts you would like treated. Research Isotropic Finishing. My own experience: Did a set of small block Chevy oil pump gears. Getting heat into oil was difficult in cooler weather. Never an issue hot lapping in the heat. Rear gears are street gears that have been in the car for 3 seasons with 4-500 runs on them. Will let you know as the cover has not been off but will very soon. There is another process which is used in high RPM engine successfully. WPC Treatment Company. Not the same process but similar results. www.wpctreatment.com Have fun! __________________ Frank Ferrucci ?/SA 1271

03-22-2012, 11:35 AM	#24
BlueOval Ralph Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 852 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Mikronite As remember it was the other way around they bought Crane, could be wrong in my old age

03-22-2012, 12:32 PM	#25
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,830 Likes: 79 Liked 465 Times in 217 Posts	Re: Mikronite Jim Bailey where are you?

03-22-2012, 03:51 PM	#28
Jim Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 714 Likes: 17 Liked 627 Times in 120 Posts	Re: Mikronite You're riding "the" fine line on advertising !!! (on this sight) laughing! The point is Cryo/ Rem, and Mikronite, processes work. They're well excepted. Improve part life. And increase performance. It's not black magic anymore. As a matter of fact, I promise you, many of your competitors are using it, and, have seen performance increases. JB

03-22-2012, 04:04 PM	#29
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,830 Likes: 79 Liked 465 Times in 217 Posts	Re: Mikronite so do we have a money back deal if I don't run 1.15 in 60 feet?

03-22-2012, 04:30 PM	#30
buzzinhalfdozen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bellevue Ohio Posts: 985 Likes: 0 Liked 12 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Mikronite Come on big spender, you grossed me out for not wanting to spend 125.00 to replace my perfectly good window net calling it "a drop in the bucket" now you're balking at spending 100.00 to purchase something that may actually improve your cars performance? Exactly what class is E by the way? Joe __________________ Joe Buchanan SS/BX 3117