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Old 02-16-2010, 01:50 AM   #21
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Tony, we will have to find a copy of the invisible procedures manual in order to have any more secret ballots.
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Old 02-16-2010, 02:19 AM   #22
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I see NHRA also has a new rule regarding dumping your RV tanks in. make that on, the pits. About time. Some people are real scum to think the other racers appreciate their grey water being dumped before they roll on home!
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Old 02-16-2010, 05:25 AM   #23
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First, why would NHRA asess any fines when this is an environmental issue, wouldn't the EPA be asessing fines?
Be very, very thankful it's the NHRA and not the EPA policing this. Besides, this type of legislation is so overdue it's not even funny.
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Old 02-16-2010, 07:13 AM   #24
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Be very, very thankful it's the NHRA and not the EPA policing this. Besides, this type of legislation is so overdue it's not even funny.
I'm not saying there doesn't need to be some sort of rules of conduct regarding this, as I've personally witnessed some really stupid things, oil being dumped on ground, tanks being drained on ground, just alot of thoughtless acts. We really try to leave our pit area looking as if no one had parked there, no trash on ground, hopefully no oil spills however sometimes accidents do happen of course we do all we can to clean up. It's really just common sense and good manners in my opinion our sport has the potential for all sorts of environmental mini disasters. I believe most racers would feel bad enough about making a mess without being fined as most take alot of pride in their rigs, race cars personal apperance. Again I just question how NHRA retains the right to levy environmental fines. This makes no sense to me. Joe
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Old 02-16-2010, 09:07 AM   #25
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. Again I just question how NHRA retains the right to levy environmental fines. This makes no sense to me. Joe
NHRA/track owns the property. It is their house, it is their rules, they can do whatever they want. Just remember, they are the ones that will get fined by the EPA. They are responsible, for what happens on their property.
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Old 02-16-2010, 09:35 AM   #26
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So using that logic.... say you drive over to my house, you engine kicks a rod out dumping oil and you don't clean it up according to EPA standards..So I fine you $1000 right? Hey I'm the property owner. Yeah sounds silly doesn't it? Joe
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Old 02-16-2010, 09:45 AM   #27
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So using that logic.... say you drive over to my house, you engine kicks a rod out dumping oil and you don't clean it up according to EPA standards..So I fine you $1000 right? Hey I'm the property owner. Yeah sounds silly doesn't it? Joe
Joe, I agree with your logic 100% and let's take it one step further. Legally NHRA should only be able to place a fine on a racer for a violation on property that they OWN (Indy, Columbus, Gainesville and Atlanta). At other tracks it would be between the racer, the track owner and the EPA.




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Old 02-16-2010, 11:10 AM   #28
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Undoubtedly more to come for them.
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Old 02-16-2010, 01:37 PM   #29
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Joe, I agree with your logic 100% and let's take it one step further. Legally NHRA should only be able to place a fine on a racer for a violation on property that they OWN (Indy, Columbus, Gainesville and Atlanta). At other tracks it would be between the racer, the track owner and the EPA.




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What about the fines for oil downs by the pro cars?
Legally NHRA can do almost anything it darn well pleases. You agree to that when you join NHRA and/or enter an event. Didn't you read the rule book or the entry forms?
It's called CYOA.
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So using that logic.... say you drive over to my house, you engine kicks a rod out dumping oil and you don't clean it up according to EPA standards..So I fine you $1000 right? Hey I'm the property owner. Yeah sounds silly doesn't it? Joe
Disclaimer: I'm not a laywer, so>

In a sense that is correct. In that situation, if I didn't do a proper cleanup, you could take me to civil court an sue me for the cleanup costs, because the EPA would hold you responsible.
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