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Old 04-18-2010, 03:22 PM   #221
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Don't know if it's been posted before--when I lived in Roswell N.M. a friend had a '69 Falcon 429SCJ-4-spd. car. He said he ordered it locally with the usual deletes, rubber mat & bench seat. He claims he was told Ford had this stuffed in their order books way in the back as a "lightweight" version of a Torino for those that wanted to race that body style but didn't want all the extras that added weight & bring it down in class. I think it was something like D/S & ran pretty well, but was one rattlely SOB.
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Actually, it would have been a 1970 Falcon, which looked like the all new 70 Torino, except the Falcon was a bare bones 2 door sedan, rather than the hardtop. They did build a few, but I doubt that many are still around now.
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Old 04-18-2010, 03:27 PM   #222
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Max-Wedge,
Did any of the 1962 413 Max-wedge wagons come through with a
HC 13.5-1 420HP engine?
Did any of the 62' cars come through with some type of a light-weight package?
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Old 04-18-2010, 04:36 PM   #223
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Max-Wedge,
Did any of the 1962 413 Max-wedge wagons come through with a
HC 13.5-1 420HP engine?
Did any of the 62' cars come through with some type of a light-weight package?
Paul
I dont know about the 62 wagons. The one thing I have never been able to prove or not prove was I had heard that the ORIGINAL 13.5 comp. 420 HP 62 Plymouth 2 door Savoys (no Furys or Dodges) were stamped from a thinner gauge metal (not acid dipped). The 410 HP versions were heavier and had the regular thickness metal bodies it seems. I never had the chance to use a micrometer on one to see if there was a difference. I have met a couple of owners with what was supposed to be original 420 HP Savoys (now running brackets with 440's) and thier cars were much lighter on the scales (approx 150 pounds) than some of the 318/383 cars and these were not gutted bracket cars.
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Old 04-18-2010, 05:00 PM   #224
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Paul,
There were supposedly no '62 wagons, Dodge or Plymouth, built with HC or LC 413s at the factory, according to the D. Davis book. That's not to say one or two didn't slip out the back door.
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Old 04-18-2010, 06:19 PM   #225
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[QUOTE=dakota tom;182476]I was reading a magazine tonight and there was a 1957 Chevy 4 door sedan in it. Factory original 245 hp 283 dual quad engine. Dealer order mistake in North Dakota now in Wisconson. 65,000 mile survivor.

When I was in high school in the late 60's-early 70's. there was an older man in Temple City,Calif. where I grew up,that had a red with white top 57 Chevy Bel Air 4 dr.sport sedan(no post), 283, factory fuel injection badges on both front fenders,with a Powerglide trans. I saw the car fairly frequently at one point in time, so did a lot of car guys,(we had the license plate memorized-JUU 022,black with yellow lettering Cal plate), the word was that as the FI gave him trouble, it came off and a carb and conventional intake went on. Don't know what happened to the car, somebody probably got it, it was stock as a rock right down to the hub caps.
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Old 04-18-2010, 06:36 PM   #226
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X-Tech,
Just went through an old Performance Magazine. Your right on with the
weight savings. The aluminum nosed 63' cars were 146lbs. lighter.
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X-Tech,
Just went through an old Performance Magazine. Your right on with the
weight savings. The aluminum nosed 63' cars were 146lbs. lighter.
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Its well known that the alum is about 150 lbs lighter for the 63 and 64'sbut I was refering to the 1962 STEEL Savoy Plymouths with the HC 420 HP 413.
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Old 04-18-2010, 08:27 PM   #228
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X-Tech,
Misunderstood on the year models.
Just read some odd info, to save weight. Several of the 62'
3-speed cars had the steel bell-housing switched out to an aluminum one. Could that be a dealer/factory item for 62', or just crazy info.
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Old 04-18-2010, 08:46 PM   #229
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Paul, do you remember anything about the 1972 Fury I "Police Interceptor" with the oddball 383 THREE-barrel Holley? I had a chance to buy one in '76 and, for the life of me, I couldn't see any advantage.
Does this combo ring a bell with anybody?
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Brett,
Could that have been a 400 cubic inch engine.
Those 3-barrel's were popular for a very short-time, much like
'Lady Gaga'.
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