Trouble surfing Class racer - Page 2

HandOverFist · 03-22-2015, 06:39 PM

Nothing wrong with XP...tried and true warhorse.

Dale Rethke · 03-22-2015, 08:27 PM

If your using Internet explorer on XP you will have problems
Get a new web browser installed and use it instead.
Google chrome works well

SSDiv6 · 03-22-2015, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandOverFist

Nothing wrong with XP...tried and true warhorse.

IT WAS a tried and true warhorse; not anymore.
Also, Microsoft stopped all supporting XP a year ago.
Therefore, by modern protocols, is not secure. It lacks ASLR that prevents vulnerabilities and hacking.

Also, there are no Oracle JAVA updates that work well with XP; therefore, there are many applications and websites that will not work unless you have the latest version of JAVA. This said, it will perform poorly when accessing many sites. Oracle updates JAVA frequently, however, like I said, the new updates are not compatible with XP.

I suggest for anyone that still has XP, to run the disk cleanup feature to see if it helps.
(Right-click, C Drive/ Properties/ Disk cleanup)

Also, the computer may have too many programs and services that are auto-loading and running in the background. Windows XP does not have the capacity anymore to do so and it's one primary reason for complaints of slowness.

Bob Mulry · 03-22-2015, 11:06 PM

The bad thing about Windows 7 is that all of your old software Quicken, outlook, datafacts will not run on Windows 7.....

Bill gates is a pretty smart guy to make your software obsolete...

30 years ago when Mac came out, all of the Apple programs wouldn't run on a Mac.........

Just opening up a revenue new stream........

and by the way it's called planned obsolescence

Bob

Ed Wright · 03-22-2015, 11:21 PM

Much of my computer tuning software doesn't work well with 7.

SSDiv6 · 03-22-2015, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

The bad thing about Windows 7 is that all of your old software Quicken, outlook, datafacts will not run on Windows 7.....

Bill gates is a pretty smart guy to make your software obsolete...

30 years ago when Mac came out, all of the Apple programs wouldn't run on a Mac.........

Just opening up a revenue new stream........

and by the way it's called planned obsolescence

Bob

Bob,

If you have Windows 7 or a newer version, you can use Microsoft's Application Compatibility Toolkit.

If you have Windows 7, you can also download Windows XP Mode which allows you to run older versions of programs designed for XP, to run in Windows 7.

They are free Microsoft utility programs that will allow older programs to be compatible with newer versions of Windows.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=7352

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...e-in-windows-7

HandOverFist · 03-22-2015, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

IT WAS a tried and true warhorse; not anymore.

Beg to differ...still King in my eyes.
Also, Microsoft stopped all supporting XP a year ago.
Therefore, by modern protocols, is not secure. It lacks ASLR that prevents vulnerabilities and hacking.

Lack of support does not reflect on XP's continued excellence. Modern protocols? Win 7 is a fine OS, but don't think for a moment it is immune from those same vulnerabilities and hacking.

Also, there are no Oracle JAVA updates that work well with XP; therefore, there are many applications and websites that will not work unless you have the latest version of JAVA. This said, it will perform poorly when accessing many sites. Oracle updates JAVA frequently, however, like I said, the new updates are not compatible with XP.

Time moves on and we all do what has to be done to continue. Take note that nearly all programs we use as racers still work wonderfully on XP.

I suggest for anyone that still has XP, to run the disk cleanup feature to see if it helps.
(Right-click, C Drive/ Properties/ Disk cleanup)

Also, the computer may have too many programs and services that are auto-loading and running in the background. Windows XP does not have the capacity anymore to do so and it's one primary reason for complaints of slowness.

Just a matter of time, everything will foul up regardless of OS used...it's bred into the internet. By all means try all the latest and greatest bandaides. They all work to some extent...for awhile.

Rich's rule - Nothing beats an old fashioned wipe/re-install on a as needed schedule.

To be honest about it, I am a known abuser of OS's and computer hardware lol...

SSDiv6 · 03-23-2015, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandOverFist

To be honest about it, I am a known abuser of OS's and computer hardware lol...

Like the idiom says..."To each his own".

Just trying to help since I do this for a living, dealing with cyber security and software applications.

HandOverFist · 03-23-2015, 10:43 AM

No animosity directed towards you personally SSDiv6...I just disagree with the bashing the often maligned XP operating system receives. Truth is the vast majority of businesses still operate on XP...disclaimer being the bulk of their work is for internal use. In this case familiarity does not breed contempt...it simply works.

The Vista OS was introduced to address those threats you cited earlier and was somewhat successful. Vista is a fine OS, but was ill received by the masses partly due simply because it was a change to what we were familiar with. The larger issue was the limited hardware built-in to the pc's sold to the masses which sadly continues to the present time...minimal memory installed is a sure fire way to cripple anything.

Win 7 is a wonderful OS, but in reality just Vista refined.

Win 8...oh boy. A corporate exercise to capitalize upon the growing mobile device trend. Problem here is it just does not translate well with the casual pc user. Sure, there are multiple workarounds to make it more user friendly, but many question why am I having to jump thru hoops. Expect another incarnation shortly.

Long story short...the simple act of using a pc on the internet these days is a war on your system. There are a good many folks out there trying to counteract the threats with varied success. I understand for the bulk of people out there one cannot simply throw up their hands in surrender...we just want to use our computers as intended. I classified those programs attempting to counteract threats earlier as bandaides...reality dictates that is exactly what they are. Yes, using them will somewhat extend the life of your operating system, but the fix is often just as intrusive as the threat. I personally resigned myself long ago to just wipe/re-install my OS when it all became unbearable.

goinbroke2 · 03-23-2015, 12:24 PM

Wow, thanks for all the info guys. SSdiv6 and Rich, thanks especially to you two, I'll try the disc clean up then possibly reinstall and see if something works. For now I'm opening classracer on two different windows and read one then when I click, switch to the other and read until I click, switch back and by then it's loaded..wash, rinse, repeat. LOL!

Oh, and I was already told my system is too small/weak/whatever to operate anything newer than XP so I'd need a new computer and that ain't in the future anytime soon...

Thanks again guys

03-22-2015, 06:39 PM	#11
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Trouble surfing Class racer Nothing wrong with XP...tried and true warhorse. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

03-22-2015, 08:27 PM	#12
Dale Rethke Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 50 Likes: 4 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Trouble surfing Class racer If your using Internet explorer on XP you will have problems Get a new web browser installed and use it instead. Google chrome works well

03-22-2015, 11:06 PM	#14
Bob Mulry VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Coarsegold, CA Posts: 1,016 Likes: 57 Liked 320 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Trouble surfing Class racer The bad thing about Windows 7 is that all of your old software Quicken, outlook, datafacts will not run on Windows 7..... Bill gates is a pretty smart guy to make your software obsolete... 30 years ago when Mac came out, all of the Apple programs wouldn't run on a Mac......... Just opening up a revenue new stream........ and by the way it's called planned obsolescence Bob __________________ Bob Mulry 7516 STK A & M Motorsports

03-22-2015, 11:21 PM	#15
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Trouble surfing Class racer Much of my computer tuning software doesn't work well with 7. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

03-23-2015, 10:43 AM	#19
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Trouble surfing Class racer No animosity directed towards you personally SSDiv6...I just disagree with the bashing the often maligned XP operating system receives. Truth is the vast majority of businesses still operate on XP...disclaimer being the bulk of their work is for internal use. In this case familiarity does not breed contempt...it simply works. The Vista OS was introduced to address those threats you cited earlier and was somewhat successful. Vista is a fine OS, but was ill received by the masses partly due simply because it was a change to what we were familiar with. The larger issue was the limited hardware built-in to the pc's sold to the masses which sadly continues to the present time...minimal memory installed is a sure fire way to cripple anything. Win 7 is a wonderful OS, but in reality just Vista refined. Win 8...oh boy. A corporate exercise to capitalize upon the growing mobile device trend. Problem here is it just does not translate well with the casual pc user. Sure, there are multiple workarounds to make it more user friendly, but many question why am I having to jump thru hoops. Expect another incarnation shortly. Long story short...the simple act of using a pc on the internet these days is a war on your system. There are a good many folks out there trying to counteract the threats with varied success. I understand for the bulk of people out there one cannot simply throw up their hands in surrender...we just want to use our computers as intended. I classified those programs attempting to counteract threats earlier as bandaides...reality dictates that is exactly what they are. Yes, using them will somewhat extend the life of your operating system, but the fix is often just as intrusive as the threat. I personally resigned myself long ago to just wipe/re-install my OS when it all became unbearable. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

03-23-2015, 12:24 PM	#20
goinbroke2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NS CANADA Posts: 898 Likes: 1,668 Liked 395 Times in 154 Posts	Re: Trouble surfing Class racer Wow, thanks for all the info guys. SSdiv6 and Rich, thanks especially to you two, I'll try the disc clean up then possibly reinstall and see if something works. For now I'm opening classracer on two different windows and read one then when I click, switch to the other and read until I click, switch back and by then it's loaded..wash, rinse, repeat. LOL! Oh, and I was already told my system is too small/weak/whatever to operate anything newer than XP so I'd need a new computer and that ain't in the future anytime soon... Thanks again guys