CJ engine options and HP ratings.

Yo Ken · 12-16-2009, 01:10 PM

Larry Hill · 12-16-2009, 01:39 PM

Thanks , I can hardly wait.
Is the HP. number listed factory HP. or NHRA factored HP.

Dick Butler · 12-16-2009, 02:00 PM

unless the rules are changed for Ford, Chevy had to BUILD cars with the optional motors not just swear they were available.... Remember the VETTES and HOODS and 454 hi hp motors?

Jim Carter · 12-16-2009, 02:22 PM

Maybe this is the reason for the push for lower indexes.
It will buy some time for these combos before they can be placed where they belong.

Is there enough demand in the country, right now, for Ford to sell enough of these cars to make them eligible for stock.?

Can you actually buy these cars for the street or are they limited production, "race only" component vehicles? AKA fake stockers?

I guess the rules will be rewritten again?

Chad Rhodes · 12-16-2009, 02:36 PM

the HP factors are a complete and total JOKE. 375 hp for a 428 SBF, yea right. with a 2bbl and truck heads maybe.

Ken Miele · 12-16-2009, 02:57 PM

Larry, those are the NHRA HP rating's

Ed, CJ's will be built with all engine combo's

Jim, from what I have been told, all 50 have been sold. Also, there have been a large number of body in white and their respective kits purchased.

No they are not street legal, the rules book does not state that they have to be street legal, just available to purchase.

Here is the rule from NHRA.

"OEM may apply for inclusion of any special production run into the Official NHRA Stock Car Classification Guide. Special run must include a minimum of 50 units of an already accepted body style, need not be showroom available. Applications evaluated on an individual basis. Acceptance will not imply precedent."

novassdude · 12-16-2009, 07:18 PM

Just curious what factory ford car does the 352 and 428 come in?

Jim Carter · 12-16-2009, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

Larry, those are the NHRA HP rating's

Ed, CJ's will be built with all engine combo's

Jim, from what I have been told, all 50 have been sold. Also, there have been a large number of body in white and their respective kits purchased.

No they are not street legal, the rules book does not state that they have to be street legal, just available to purchase.

Here is the rule from NHRA.

"OEM may apply for inclusion of any special production run into the Official NHRA Stock Car Classification Guide. Special run must include a minimum of 50 units of an already accepted body style, need not be showroom available. Applications evaluated on an individual basis. Acceptance will not imply precedent."

Kenny:

Your charts show 10 different combos, that means 50 cars per kit car combo must be sold, that's 500 cars. Or am I missing something here?
Have a good holiday.
JC

Charley Downing · 12-17-2009, 07:48 AM

All you guys forget about when the LT1 came out it was rated at 275hp now it rated at 346hp a 71hp increase talk about soft when it came out. What about the LS1 how many hp has it got in the last ten years.
And what about all the soft olds and buicks from the 80's when GM was in charge of hp just about. Now it's fords turn so shut up and race, every dog has it day. If combos are not soft when they first come out no one will build them. This is not something new it has been going on for 40 plus years. So if you don't like it stop racing, deal with it and work on you ***** or build a ford if it's so easy. How many of you people crying race more then 4 NHRA races a year anyway? I know Greg hill races more then four but Greg is always complaining about something (Ha Ha) Merry Christmas buddy see you in Jan.

Chuck D good luck to all my I/SA,J/SA& K/SA competitors next year you will need it. If it's not heads up then it's not cool.

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Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: CJ engine options and HP ratings. unless the rules are changed for Ford, Chevy had to BUILD cars with the optional motors not just swear they were available.... Remember the VETTES and HOODS and 454 hi hp motors?

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Jim Carter Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 190 Likes: 10 Liked 19 Times in 3 Posts	Re: CJ engine options and HP ratings. Maybe this is the reason for the push for lower indexes. It will buy some time for these combos before they can be placed where they belong. Is there enough demand in the country, right now, for Ford to sell enough of these cars to make them eligible for stock.? Can you actually buy these cars for the street or are they limited production, "race only" component vehicles? AKA fake stockers? I guess the rules will be rewritten again?

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Chad Rhodes VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Where the Green Grass Grows, AL Posts: 2,375 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: CJ engine options and HP ratings. the HP factors are a complete and total JOKE. 375 hp for a 428 SBF, yea right. with a 2bbl and truck heads maybe. __________________ Chad Rhodes 2113 I/SA

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Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,861 Likes: 456 Liked 16,549 Times in 1,522 Posts	Re: CJ engine options and HP ratings. Larry, those are the NHRA HP rating's Ed, CJ's will be built with all engine combo's Jim, from what I have been told, all 50 have been sold. Also, there have been a large number of body in white and their respective kits purchased. No they are not street legal, the rules book does not state that they have to be street legal, just available to purchase. Here is the rule from NHRA. "OEM may apply for inclusion of any special production run into the Official NHRA Stock Car Classification Guide. Special run must include a minimum of 50 units of an already accepted body style, need not be showroom available. Applications evaluated on an individual basis. Acceptance will not imply precedent."

12-16-2009, 07:18 PM	#7
novassdude Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: usa Posts: 752 Likes: 204 Liked 136 Times in 49 Posts	Re: CJ engine options and HP ratings. Just curious what factory ford car does the 352 and 428 come in?

12-17-2009, 07:48 AM	#9
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: CJ engine options and HP ratings. All you guys forget about when the LT1 came out it was rated at 275hp now it rated at 346hp a 71hp increase talk about soft when it came out. What about the LS1 how many hp has it got in the last ten years. And what about all the soft olds and buicks from the 80's when GM was in charge of hp just about. Now it's fords turn so shut up and race, every dog has it day. If combos are not soft when they first come out no one will build them. This is not something new it has been going on for 40 plus years. So if you don't like it stop racing, deal with it and work on you ***** or build a ford if it's so easy. How many of you people crying race more then 4 NHRA races a year anyway? I know Greg hill races more then four but Greg is always complaining about something (Ha Ha) Merry Christmas buddy see you in Jan. Chuck D good luck to all my I/SA,J/SA& K/SA competitors next year you will need it. If it's not heads up then it's not cool. __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK Last edited by Charley Downing; 12-17-2009 at 07:53 AM.