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Old 03-03-2013, 02:19 PM   #121
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Spyfish, you are one very funny dude!
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Old 03-03-2013, 04:33 PM   #122
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Ok Stephen, all jokes aside. Name the rules. How's this sound?

Obviously with whatever you call legal heads I can't compete to win the race assuming some new heads will show up to steal the show.

How about your $10,000 to the quickest guy with your rules and pass full teardown?

Name the rules and be specific. You can't just say old rules because obviously everyone has a different take on it.

Maybe this will motivate some cars to come out.

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Old 03-03-2013, 05:25 PM   #123
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Ok Stephen, all jokes aside. Name the rules. How's this sound?

Obviously with whatever you call legal heads I can't compete to win the race assuming some new heads will show up to steal the show.

How about your $10,000 to the quickest guy with your rules and pass full teardown?

Name the rules and be specific. You can't just say old rules because obviously everyone has a different take on it.

Maybe this will motivate some cars to come out.

Rules:
?????
Here we go again, you just came out of the Obama cabinet meeting? Go to top of page two and READ KKFC rules. Don't spin doctor them to what YOU want ie:Barton-ism. But since you bothered me again, I am borrowing Tuetons body templates and I will have my original unmolested LO23 Dart with me for reference if need be. The addendum is : body will be checked as well since you seem to be unable to figure out the scoop rule.

PS Bring all your scoops, you could become Twenty Scoop Dave


David, all jokes aside. You guys build and sell motors. YOU should be putting the money up and run your new NHRA rules. Mine are just that, the old rules plain and simple.
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Old 03-03-2013, 07:13 PM   #124
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Like sands through the hour glass.........
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:41 AM   #125
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:12 AM   #126
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Here we go again, you just came out of the Obama cabinet meeting? Go to top of page two and READ KKFC rules. Don't spin doctor them to what YOU want ie:Barton-ism. But since you bothered me again, I am borrowing Tuetons body templates and I will have my original unmolested LO23 Dart with me for reference if need be. The addendum is : body will be checked as well since you seem to be unable to figure out the scoop rule.

PS Bring all your scoops, you could become Twenty Scoop Dave


David, all jokes aside. You guys build and sell motors. YOU should be putting the money up and run your new NHRA rules. Mine are just that, the old rules plain and simple.
Well, look who is backing down now I was counting on taking the KKFC money. I'm disappointed. Without that I don't have much motivation to thrash another car together since time is running out. I have mouths to feed over here. To me, this is much more than a hobby.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:13 AM   #127
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"la poule qui caquette est celui qui a pondu l'oeuf" Krazy Kajun for "The chicken that cackled is the one that laid the egg". The KKFC race would have been a brilliant idea to exposed the evil spirits of the class had NHRA not "excepted" us in the rule amendment. Too scoop is right, an older head like mine can't win. A single engine builder cackled for the rule amendment and got it. Cackled again starting this thread.

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Old 03-04-2013, 10:27 AM   #128
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:16 AM   #129
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Comme le tourne hemi
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:22 PM   #130
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"la poule qui caquette est celui qui a pondu l'oeuf" Krazy Kajun for "The chicken that cackled is the one that laid the egg". The KKFC race would have been a brilliant idea to exposed the evil spirits of the class had NHRA not "excepted" us in the rule amendment. Too scoop is right, an older head like mine can't win. A single engine builder cackled for the rule amendment and got it. Cackled again starting this thread.

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I feel like we're going in circles. Nobody over here asked for any rule amendments, just enforcement. Stop making it like it was our idea.

Here is an email I received that you wrote to NHRA accusing us of cheating with external mods.

Car 403H

I respectfully request a waiver of my external modification violation just for the Dutch Classic next month. The external bolts are a safety upgrade, not performance. The 4 1/4" allen bolts are visible and will be removed when the motor comes out after the Dutch (unless I don't get to go?). However, the Barton cars are being allowed to race with visible adapter plates that hold valve covers and intakes to the engine. These are clearly "external modifications" as well. (Not to mention overmilling of the head rail). Of course, if no one else had external mods, I would not even ask. It is my understanding that 2013 rule language will clear up head guidance for all.

"Barton cars are being allowed to race with visible adapter plates that hold valve covers and intakes to the engine." - I don't appreciate you sending NHRA letters stating we are illegal when we are clearly not. The "adapters" you speak of are simply valve cover spacers because our rocker system became taller. You should have been looking at CW's stuff instead because his engines did have adapter plates for his overmilled heads.

"It is my understanding that 2013 rule language will clear up head guidance for all." - You were one of the guys asking NHRA to change the ruling just because you didn't understand the rule book. Maybe they can get a French copy for you to read.

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