T.B.I. and manual trans question......

rick lester · 12-08-2008, 07:34 AM

Hopefully someone has used a t.b.i. chevy set-up for stock and can give me some input. I plan to race a 91 s-10 with a 4.3 and manual trans. If I'm not mistaking, the throttle body for a 4.3 is the same as a 5.0, 5.7 and 7.4, just diff. injecters. With that being the case, if a factory computer is used, can it be programmed to take the desired specs it will require to run low 12's? If not, can a FAST system be used and be programmed to run a t.b.i. system. What manual trans would be a good starting point? Yes a jerico or a g-force would be better, and some might be thinking to just spend the money now and be done with it, but since this is a starter stocker I just want to get it going first then update as funds come in. I want to get this going a.s.a.p., I just joined SSSSA and I want to race so bad. Might start out as a W/S first (4 banger with stick) just to get the blood pumping again. I think as a w truck it will at least run the index, but way off the record. STOCKERS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rick.

Rory McNeil · 12-08-2008, 02:49 PM

I can`t help you with the FI questions, but I would likely just "bite the bullet", and buy a Jerico right from the beginning. I have a 85 5.0 Mustang, and like you I just wanted to get racing it as soon as possible, on a budget. Well, after the first year, I had several broken, wounded and patched up factory T5 transmisisons in my garage. Since then I have bought a good used Jerico, and haven`t looked back. I also have a Jerico in my 10.0 ET bracket car, (I bought that one used as well, over 10 years ago) and between the 2 cars, over 8 years of racing in the bracket Fairmont, and 4 years in the Mustang, I have not broken a single part in either trans. PLUS, I could likely sell them for what I bought them for. Probably the best investments I`ve made in race parts.

Bob Shaw · 12-08-2008, 08:52 PM

Rick,
I have built and raced 3 stockers with the 4.3 and tbi. I recommend you use a Holley Commander 950 ecu to control the fuel injection. I would be glad to help you get started. The 454 throttle body is larger than the 262 and 350 throttle bodies.

rick lester · 12-09-2008, 06:07 AM

BOB, thanks for the info, I knew that holley makes g.m.'s tbi's, and now that I think of it, that makes perfect sense. Do they sell the ecu and wiring seperate? Maybe just buy a used set up and use what I need.Email me at racerrick2881@yahoo.com. RORY, I agree with you 100% about buying the best parts for the job the first time, but with only an estimated 275 hp at the most I feel a t-10 or a m-22 would work, but that would be just a starting point. A jerico or a g-force is on the list. My biggest starting point on this project will be talking Dana into giving up her S-10. No a/c, maual steering, rubber floor mat, slow 4 cylinder with a 5 speed. I'm more than willing to buy her a full size chevy, loaded! Still no. I figure if I get her the full size truck, I can use it to go racing will she uses my cold a/c automatic fully loaded oldsmobile delta 88 will I'm out.She can even use my 68 delta 88 convertible. Women, can't live with them, can't get them to do anything you want.HELP ME! STOCKERS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rick.

Bob Shaw · 12-09-2008, 08:46 PM

Rick,
Holley will sell you the ecu, wiring and sensors as a kit to use with your stock fuel injection.

12-08-2008, 07:34 AM	#1
rick lester Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Littlestown PA Posts: 163 Likes: 9 Liked 4 Times in 1 Post	T.B.I. and manual trans question...... Hopefully someone has used a t.b.i. chevy set-up for stock and can give me some input. I plan to race a 91 s-10 with a 4.3 and manual trans. If I'm not mistaking, the throttle body for a 4.3 is the same as a 5.0, 5.7 and 7.4, just diff. injecters. With that being the case, if a factory computer is used, can it be programmed to take the desired specs it will require to run low 12's? If not, can a FAST system be used and be programmed to run a t.b.i. system. What manual trans would be a good starting point? Yes a jerico or a g-force would be better, and some might be thinking to just spend the money now and be done with it, but since this is a starter stocker I just want to get it going first then update as funds come in. I want to get this going a.s.a.p., I just joined SSSSA and I want to race so bad. Might start out as a W/S first (4 banger with stick) just to get the blood pumping again. I think as a w truck it will at least run the index, but way off the record. STOCKERS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rick.

12-08-2008, 02:49 PM	#2
Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,298 Likes: 297 Liked 1,073 Times in 293 Posts	Re: T.B.I. and manual trans question...... I can`t help you with the FI questions, but I would likely just "bite the bullet", and buy a Jerico right from the beginning. I have a 85 5.0 Mustang, and like you I just wanted to get racing it as soon as possible, on a budget. Well, after the first year, I had several broken, wounded and patched up factory T5 transmisisons in my garage. Since then I have bought a good used Jerico, and haven`t looked back. I also have a Jerico in my 10.0 ET bracket car, (I bought that one used as well, over 10 years ago) and between the 2 cars, over 8 years of racing in the bracket Fairmont, and 4 years in the Mustang, I have not broken a single part in either trans. PLUS, I could likely sell them for what I bought them for. Probably the best investments I`ve made in race parts. __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang

12-08-2008, 08:52 PM	#3
Bob Shaw Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sedalia, Mo Posts: 435 Likes: 317 Liked 295 Times in 60 Posts	Re: T.B.I. and manual trans question...... Rick, I have built and raced 3 stockers with the 4.3 and tbi. I recommend you use a Holley Commander 950 ecu to control the fuel injection. I would be glad to help you get started. The 454 throttle body is larger than the 262 and 350 throttle bodies. __________________ Bob Shaw V/SA 515

12-09-2008, 06:07 AM	#4
rick lester Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Littlestown PA Posts: 163 Likes: 9 Liked 4 Times in 1 Post	Re: T.B.I. and manual trans question...... BOB, thanks for the info, I knew that holley makes g.m.'s tbi's, and now that I think of it, that makes perfect sense. Do they sell the ecu and wiring seperate? Maybe just buy a used set up and use what I need.Email me at racerrick2881@yahoo.com. RORY, I agree with you 100% about buying the best parts for the job the first time, but with only an estimated 275 hp at the most I feel a t-10 or a m-22 would work, but that would be just a starting point. A jerico or a g-force is on the list. My biggest starting point on this project will be talking Dana into giving up her S-10. No a/c, maual steering, rubber floor mat, slow 4 cylinder with a 5 speed. I'm more than willing to buy her a full size chevy, loaded! Still no. I figure if I get her the full size truck, I can use it to go racing will she uses my cold a/c automatic fully loaded oldsmobile delta 88 will I'm out.She can even use my 68 delta 88 convertible. Women, can't live with them, can't get them to do anything you want.HELP ME! STOCKERS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rick.

12-09-2008, 08:46 PM	#5
Bob Shaw Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sedalia, Mo Posts: 435 Likes: 317 Liked 295 Times in 60 Posts	Re: T.B.I. and manual trans question...... Rick, Holley will sell you the ecu, wiring and sensors as a kit to use with your stock fuel injection. __________________ Bob Shaw V/SA 515