Alf Wiebe A body rear control arms

Joe Abbazia · 11-20-2008, 12:29 AM

ball joints custom,tie bars and bull nose afcos.

72Malibu · 12-16-2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Abbazia

ball joints custom,tie bars and bull nose afcos.

Are they tall ball joints? What are tie bars? I agree that it needs the bull nose afcos, 1925lbs crashing back down on my KONI's aint cuttin it.

Rick Kagawa · 12-21-2008, 02:47 AM

72 malibu that is one bad street car. It is still not a stocker. The A body is one of the toughest stocker to run for two reasons, one is the rear suspension and the other is that the motors are some ot the most powerful in stock. Traction is the issue with 9 inch tires. The 1970 454 is so powerful, I elected to stay with a L78 402 in my stocker.

Alf builds one system that works with the high power A bodies front and rear suspension. It really works. The A body twist is eliminated. The cars hook in most car washes. His front end kit makes the car faster. On the launch, the front tires don't look like a duck and scrub off speed when they land. An A body has the upper arms tilted backwards for anti dive. The front is up in the air at the top end catching air. His system takes out the anti dive and increases the aero dynamics. When I changed to his new system last year, I gained 2.5 miles per hour in the traps.

I have run a rear Weibe system since I started running my A body 6 years ago. The only reason to not buy one is that you want to have the pride that I designed my own system or I don't have the money to buy a complete system. I just figured how many years can I race? I want my car to run. I don't need to reinvent the wheel. He builds a proven system.

If you ever get to spend time with him, he is as straight a person that you will find. He will help you at his own expense. What a great guy.

Rick Kagawa
708 C/SA
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCPh...r=100#indextop

72Malibu · 12-21-2008, 03:10 AM

Thanks Rick. It appears that I still have some work to do on the front suspension.

will prater · 12-21-2008, 04:03 AM

I saw this car run at Mokan. Impressive. How big is that motor?

72Malibu · 12-21-2008, 09:22 AM

Thanks...Its 505 cubes, 10.5-1 compression, dual plane intake, 1000hp carb.

Todd Geisler · 12-28-2008, 07:32 PM

I still can't figure out how NHRA ever approved the Wiebe suspension system for Stock Eliminator.

I've got the rule book here and it clearly states the lower trailing arms must be non-adjustable and have bushed ends, no heims. Upper is allowed to be adjustable and have heim ends, but not the lowers.

The Wiebe lowers have heims and are adjustable making them illegal the way I read the rules.

Also, the rules state that the upper rear housing attachment point may be relocated, but it doesn't not state you can on the lowers (Alf system drops the lower front bolt below the frame with a bracket), clearly a grey area in the rules.

Greg Barsamian · 02-27-2009, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Kagawa

72 malibu that is one bad street car. It is still not a stocker. The A body is one of the toughest stocker to run for two reasons, one is the rear suspension and the other is that the motors are some ot the most powerful in stock. Traction is the issue with 9 inch tires. The 1970 454 is so powerful, I elected to stay with a L78 402 in my stocker.

Alf builds one system that works with the high power A bodies front and rear suspension. It really works. The A body twist is eliminated. The cars hook in most car washes. His front end kit makes the car faster. On the launch, the front tires don't look like a duck and scrub off speed when they land. An A body has the upper arms tilted backwards for anti dive. The front is up in the air at the top end catching air. His system takes out the anti dive and increases the aero dynamics. When I changed to his new system last year, I gained 2.5 miles per hour in the traps.

I have run a rear Weibe system since I started running my A body 6 years ago. The only reason to not buy one is that you want to have the pride that I designed my own system or I don't have the money to buy a complete system. I just figured how many years can I race? I want my car to run. I don't need to reinvent the wheel. He builds a proven system.

If you ever get to spend time with him, he is as straight a person that you will find. He will help you at his own expense. What a great guy.

Rick Kagawa
708 C/SA
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCPh...r=100#indextop

"Dead-on" about Alf & his products,
I'll continue to purchase anything this man builds!

11-20-2008, 12:29 AM	#1
Joe Abbazia Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: USA Posts: 66 Likes: 0 Liked 19 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Alf Wiebe A body rear control arms ball joints custom,tie bars and bull nose afcos.

12-21-2008, 02:47 AM	#3
Rick Kagawa Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 32 Likes: 1 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: Alf Wiebe A body rear control arms 72 malibu that is one bad street car. It is still not a stocker. The A body is one of the toughest stocker to run for two reasons, one is the rear suspension and the other is that the motors are some ot the most powerful in stock. Traction is the issue with 9 inch tires. The 1970 454 is so powerful, I elected to stay with a L78 402 in my stocker. Alf builds one system that works with the high power A bodies front and rear suspension. It really works. The A body twist is eliminated. The cars hook in most car washes. His front end kit makes the car faster. On the launch, the front tires don't look like a duck and scrub off speed when they land. An A body has the upper arms tilted backwards for anti dive. The front is up in the air at the top end catching air. His system takes out the anti dive and increases the aero dynamics. When I changed to his new system last year, I gained 2.5 miles per hour in the traps. I have run a rear Weibe system since I started running my A body 6 years ago. The only reason to not buy one is that you want to have the pride that I designed my own system or I don't have the money to buy a complete system. I just figured how many years can I race? I want my car to run. I don't need to reinvent the wheel. He builds a proven system. If you ever get to spend time with him, he is as straight a person that you will find. He will help you at his own expense. What a great guy. Rick Kagawa 708 C/SA http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCPh...r=100#indextop

12-21-2008, 03:10 AM	#4
72Malibu Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Republic,Mo Posts: 93 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Alf Wiebe A body rear control arms Thanks Rick. It appears that I still have some work to do on the front suspension. __________________ * 72 Malibu * 1.329-3.99-6.28@106.71-9.98@131 best 60ft to date-1.2997

12-21-2008, 04:03 AM	#5
will prater Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Carthage, MO Posts: 108 Likes: 2 Liked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Alf Wiebe A body rear control arms I saw this car run at Mokan. Impressive. How big is that motor?

12-21-2008, 09:22 AM	#6
72Malibu Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Republic,Mo Posts: 93 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Alf Wiebe A body rear control arms Thanks...Its 505 cubes, 10.5-1 compression, dual plane intake, 1000hp carb. __________________ * 72 Malibu * 1.329-3.99-6.28@106.71-9.98@131 best 60ft to date-1.2997

12-28-2008, 07:32 PM	#7
Todd Geisler Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 328 Likes: 64 Liked 345 Times in 149 Posts	Re: Alf Wiebe A body rear control arms I still can't figure out how NHRA ever approved the Wiebe suspension system for Stock Eliminator. I've got the rule book here and it clearly states the lower trailing arms must be non-adjustable and have bushed ends, no heims. Upper is allowed to be adjustable and have heim ends, but not the lowers. The Wiebe lowers have heims and are adjustable making them illegal the way I read the rules. Also, the rules state that the upper rear housing attachment point may be relocated, but it doesn't not state you can on the lowers (Alf system drops the lower front bolt below the frame with a bracket), clearly a grey area in the rules.