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View Poll Results: Could a class war in Super Stock be re-established?
Yes, with the right committe in place 53 49.07%
No, not worth the work or whining 18 16.67%
Things should stay as they are and all hope is lost for a SS/AA class war to work 10 9.26%
I could care less 27 25.00%
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Old 08-17-2008, 07:10 PM   #1
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How many real HEMI cars were really made available to the public the HEMI guys at like that there was really a little old lady from Pasadena? I bet unless your name was Sox, Landy,or Vanke you couldn't get a smell of one. They were basically concept cars made legal just for drag racing just like Thunderbolts, L-88 and LS-7 Corvette, so really there is no difference. But why should NHRA care now? Chevrolet never made an aluminum open chamber headed 396/375 but it's OK now? Ford never made 428 Cobra Jets with Titanium valves but it's OK now? Ford can be represented by Shelby GT-500s but you can't run a YENKO Camaro of Corvette? Why not make all Muscle Car era cars legal for Super Stock or Stock?
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:45 PM   #2
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How many real HEMI cars were really made available to the public the HEMI guys at like that there was really a little old lady from Pasadena? I bet unless your name was Sox, Landy,or Vanke you couldn't get a smell of one. They were basically concept cars made legal just for drag racing just like Thunderbolts, L-88 and LS-7 Corvette, so really there is no difference. But why should NHRA care now? Chevrolet never made an aluminum open chamber headed 396/375 but it's OK now? Ford never made 428 Cobra Jets with Titanium valves but it's OK now? Ford can be represented by Shelby GT-500s but you can't run a YENKO Camaro of Corvette? Why not make all Muscle Car era cars legal for Super Stock or Stock?
Not all of the hemis went to big time racers.Local good guy (Queens N.Y.) racer George Baptiste has raced one since new.George is now 72 I think and has parked the car.If anyone sees him ask him about the way he concealed the ownership of the car from his wife.George is a real gentleman and a pleasure to talk to about the old days.

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Old 08-17-2008, 09:46 PM   #3
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There are exceptions to every thing in life, So!!!! What have you raced? Have you ever had your combination banned by a sanctioning body before? What have you raced? ED? Have you ever worked 16 hours a day 7 days a week on race cars? How many days have you ever gone without sleep working on your race car? I'm sure you have a response.
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There are exceptions to every thing in life, So!!!! What have you raced? Have you ever had your combination banned by a sanctioning body before? What have you raced? ED? Have you ever worked 16 hours a day 7 days a week on race cars? How many days have you ever gone without sleep working on your race car? I'm sure you have a response.
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Old 08-18-2008, 12:02 AM   #5
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There are exceptions to every thing in life, So!!!! What have you raced? Have you ever had your combination banned by a sanctioning body before? What have you raced? ED? Have you ever worked 16 hours a day 7 days a week on race cars? How many days have you ever gone without sleep working on your race car? I'm sure you have a response.
You really dont want to get me started.But in the scheme of things in REAL life us drag racers are mearly
a pimple on a mosquitos balls.


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On a side note,has anyone seen or heard about the 50 new cobrajet mustangs ford is building for A/S,they are supposed to have a supercharged 5.4 rated at 400 hp and weigh 3300 lbs.I agree about all muscle cars being legal for competition also.Can you imagine a shelby cobra in SS/A.
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On a side note,has anyone seen or heard about the 50 new cobrajet mustangs ford is building for A/S,they are supposed to have a supercharged 5.4 rated at 400 hp and weigh 3300 lbs.I agree about all muscle cars being legal for competition also.Can you imagine a shelby cobra in SS/A.

There is one thats goin to be in SS/A, ever heard of Evan Smith??? He should be done with his car by the end of the year and debut next year
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There is one thats goin to be in SS/A, ever heard of Evan Smith??? He should be done with his car by the end of the year and debut next year
Stephen and Horace, with all due respect to you as Super Stock racers, when I spoke to Evan at E-town; he said that the car would be ready for the Dutch Classic in late Oct., and that it would be SS/B car as originally reported. I realize that plans can change, if thay have, please advise. As a diehard Ford fan since 1962, I can hardly wait to see this car run.
PS - I am going to Indy and I also can't wait to see Paul Adams and Ray Pacquet with their T-bolts put a hurting on Ralph Porpora and Jimmy Bridges in SS/B.
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ED......
Let's get you "started" I am sure that you have a lot to say. I ported the heads on both Scotty Wilcox's and Tony Rhodes Corvette's. I made Jim Defrank sell his HEMIs in the 80's and build Chevrolets then he bought me a car to race. I'm sure that you have more insight than any body on this forum. I wished I could have known a "sage" like you when I was racing. Beating people like David Nickens, John Lingenfelter, Craig Liberty and Ron Kriser would have been easier with a "Head" like you.
By the way what is that thing that you have a picture of on your identity, I can't tell, it kind of looks kind of like the car off the Chevy Chase "Vaction" movies? I want to know something, how many of that car did they build? It don't look legal to me? Was it built as a race only or just a show car that was made into a race car by you?
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ED......
Let's get you "started" I am sure that you have a lot to say. I ported the heads on both Scotty Wilcox's and Tony Rhodes Corvette's. I made Jim Defrank sell his HEMIs in the 80's and build Chevrolets then he bought me a car to race. I'm sure that you have more insight than any body on this forum. I wished I could have known a "sage" like you when I was racing. Beating people like David Nickens, John Lingenfelter, Craig Liberty and Ron Kriser would have been easier with a "Head" like you.
By the way what is that thing that you have a picture of on your identity, I can't tell, it kind of looks kind of like the car off the Chevy Chase "Vaction" movies? I want to know something, how many of that car did they build? It don't look legal to me? Was it built as a race only or just a show car that was made into a race car by you?
Well you asked for it now I'll reply.I think you had better lay off the Kentucky moonshine you're obviously are downing.All I said in my first post was that all the hemi cars didn't go to high rollers.
I made no reference to anyone in perticular.
As far as my car goes it's a 1977 AMCremlin that has held the R/SA record and currently the T/SA record.That's the Wally on the hood for my win at Atco LODRS in 2006.It says "Powered by Social Security" on the hood.I've had a 2 digit # in NHRA Div. # and currently a 2 digit IHRA #.
Admiditly this year I'm biting the bird,but there's always next year.
Go back and read my post and enlighten me on what made you raid the jug in the barn.
you also seem to be a prolific name dropper. Ed F.

Seeing that you probably are as old as I am or maybe older I strongly suggest you go have a stress test and maybe take an anger management course.
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