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Old 07-23-2025, 04:25 PM   #1
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Default Re: AHFS at Indy?

That was not a surprise to me, they were waiting a good while to post it before giving the bad news for some reason. Why the inconsistencies from year to year though. People make race schedules up at the beginning of a season, not near the middle and end of the season unless deep in the heat of a points battle.

Watching the entry list change from hour to hour, day to day now will be fun. That is a long expensive tow Julie to have to pull back on the reins every pass while there including the 1's for the little man.

That sucks for those who spent so much, in the hopes to run it out hard on the big end, to get so little at this late date. My condolences to the many from the few.
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Old 07-24-2025, 06:36 AM   #2
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That was not a surprise to me, they were waiting a good while to post it before giving the bad news for some reason. Why the inconsistencies from year to year though. People make race schedules up at the beginning of a season, not near the middle and end of the season unless deep in the heat of a points battle.

Watching the entry list change from hour to hour, day to day now will be fun. That is a long expensive tow Julie to have to pull back on the reins every pass while there including the 1's for the little man.

That sucks for those who spent so much, in the hopes to run it out hard on the big end, to get so little at this late date. My condolences to the many from the few.
Our family just committed to 2026 for our daughter Ashley Thompson to be there. Yes, 2026. And this was a family meeting yesterday not realizing NHRA had posted this change.

We need to plan that far ahead due to time off for multiple professions (Nurse, Teacher, Engineer), commitment the financial means, and commit to car improvements between now and then.

She can?t afford for her combination to be hit with hp. That would be more costly than the benefit of attending. And not knowing if this same rule will apply in 2026 nor when they will determine this makes it difficult to plan.

We were so excited last night. That excitement has now waned. 😔
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Old 07-24-2025, 08:32 AM   #3
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Personally I dont see this changing much. There are plenty of racers running .90 to 1.00 under at the regular national and divisional events. There is a very select few that can run faster than the instant trigger. They have to make a choice whether or not to make a fast run or not. Just depends how much they want the Indy class wally. I would be in favor of having the AHFS off for Indy. Makes it a little more special/ Interesting. Good luck to all that plan to go.
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Old 07-24-2025, 09:29 AM   #4
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Drew, Jim Marshal used the truck to qualify #1 at the 70th US Nationals.

At the 60th I ran V/S a 22 lbs class and went 2.3x seconds under and received 29 hp. that is 638 lbs of added weight. But and it is a big but I achieved my goal making a run outside the box. And I got to repeat a favorite southern phrase: "Hey y'all watch THIS!

None of that would have been possible without the help of the stock stick racers at Indy that year. I am forever grateful, Thanks again.

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Old 07-24-2025, 09:30 AM   #5
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Well, didn?t see this coming, very disappointing. Wish we would have known this a few months ago, it would have freed up a lot of weekends we devoted to working in the shop, testing and dyno time.

Coming from a ProStock background, no AHFS at Indy made sense to me, Its our most prestigious race of the year. Bust your butt, work hard, bring the best that you have, hit the tree and let it eat, may the best man win.

I hope they look at again and reconsider.
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Old 07-24-2025, 09:45 AM   #6
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soooo what idiot derives a system that penalizes forever ONE run ??

when Farmer was in charge hed casually tell you "you been runnning real good last 3-4 races we gonna move you up a class > personal information, fair assesment and it was ok .... no one liked it but it was fair

now spend $100g (thanks to nhra) and one class final run and shazaam your combo is no longer killer

AHFS > automatic help for slugs cannot will not EVER work we control the input data

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.... ill be drinking beer and tanning at the downing plantation at indy
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Old 07-24-2025, 11:28 AM   #7
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Well, didn?t see this coming, very disappointing. Wish we would have known this a few months ago, it would have freed up a lot of weekends we devoted to working in the shop, testing and dyno time.

Coming from a ProStock background, no AHFS at Indy made sense to me, Its our most prestigious race of the year. Bust your butt, work hard, bring the best that you have, hit the tree and let it eat, may the best man win.

I hope they look at again and reconsider.
I am with you. I always looked at Indy as special. I enjoyed watching everyone showing their combinations without the worry of a hit on their index.

With the number of cars, Class Eliminations was cool. Cars that never showed their hand let it all out at Indy.

I was going to post one of those "I need a spot at Indy" threads but now I am not that excited about going. I'll be there but probably not racing.

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Old 07-24-2025, 12:05 PM   #8
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Well, didn?t see this coming, very disappointing. Wish we would have known this a few months ago, it would have freed up a lot of weekends we devoted to working in the shop, testing and dyno time.

Coming from a ProStock background, no AHFS at Indy made sense to me, Its our most prestigious race of the year. Bust your butt, work hard, bring the best that you have, hit the tree and let it eat, may the best man win.

I hope they look at again and reconsider.
If Class Eliminator is no AHFS, how about making Stock Eliminator at Indy no AHFS as well? That would be exciting!
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Old 07-24-2025, 02:24 PM   #9
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I still stand by what I said when I was at Indy last, 2 years ago:

I wish there was a good solution to the AHFS problem because I understand the arguments against turning it off. But there's something to be said when Indy consists of 300 of the baddest S/SS cars in the country - and every one of them has the loud pedal welded to the floor.

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Is anyone tired of seeing the caprice taxi cab go 2second under the last 4 years
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Raise your hand.
To play devil's advocate, isn't it even more boring when every race is a battle to see who can get closest to -0.999 under the index?
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Old 07-24-2025, 03:47 PM   #10
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This time of year, is always fun reading about S/SS indexes and AHFS. How to fix it? what is right, etc. AHFS was made to create a level playing field, which cannot be achieved when most engines are not even legal. Before you start with the BS "I am legal, I just work harder" My cars run -.50 to-.70 under. I know what it takes to go -1.00, I choose not to spend the $. My choice, no complaints.

Complaining sounds ridiculous.
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