Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!

GTS340 · 07-05-2023, 04:37 PM

I guess either the manufacture or someone has to submit something for the V6 combo. Surely not a "dime rocket" but the "new"Challenger is 15 yrs old. 50 yr old cars are good to go though.

Paul

David Lee · 07-05-2023, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GTS340

I guess either the manufacture or someone has to submit something for the V6 combo. Surely not a "dime rocket" but the "new"Challenger is 15 yrs old. 50 yr old cars are good to go though.

Paul

might not be a dime rocket, but if we can get them in to the guide, it would be a new source. it would be great to see the 6 cyl mustangs and camaros added too

GTS340 · 07-05-2023, 10:23 PM

Since Paul Wong and I got into building the 5.7 street version. I always wondered why the V6 wasn't in the books. Sure are more of those then Hemis I bet. The SOHC 3.5L has had some changes here and there. Don't go by me. I haven't researched it a ounce. I think it was 215 hp and thru the years was pumped up to 230. Get some generous NHRA person to start it out lower than listed. A real street car with some small mods (headers and what ever) might run index..

Paul

mike britt · 07-05-2023, 10:47 PM

How are you going to put headers on an engine with only one port per bank?

GTS340 · 07-05-2023, 11:02 PM

carefully?

kdanner · 07-06-2023, 12:49 AM

I'm fairly certain the 3.5L used through 2010 had 3 exhaust ports in the head, it's the 2011-up 3.6L that doesn't.

David Lee · 07-06-2023, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kdanner

I'm fairly certain the 3.5L used through 2010 had 3 exhaust ports in the head, it's the 2011-up 3.6L that doesn't.

the exhaust pipe bots up directly to the head. i wonder if a stepped exhaust would be a pseudo headers

GTS340 · 07-06-2023, 12:51 AM

Not my concern either way. The SOHC engine has 6 exhaust ports if your worried. Your talking about a DOHC engine with one port.

BRETV · 07-06-2023, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by David Lee

might not be a dime rocket, but if we can get them in to the guide, it would be a new source. it would be great to see the 6 cyl mustangs and camaros added too

The Mustang from 2011-2014 has the 227 V6 in the guide. There's actually one racing in Div. 1 in M\SA. Then in 2015 with body style change to what it is now the 138 Turbo 4cyl. is in the guide.

Bret Velde
2003 ??/SA

GTS340 · 07-09-2023, 08:52 PM

I had to look at it now that I opened my mouth. So hopefully I'm close. If not forgive me. The Dodge 3.5L SOHC is listed as 250 hp and ended in 2010 models. The 3.6L DOHC V6 is rated as 305 hp. 8 speed transmissions came into play 2015. The same 3.6L in a Charger is rated 292 (exhaust or tune better in the Challenger?). Now at the same time the 5.7 Hemi is rated at 376 hp and is in the book at 300. If either V6s were in the book, which they should be. I would think those combos should get the same percentage off on their advertized Hp ratings to start. Not like there is a mad rush to build street 5.7 Hemis either. Some younger folks like new cars. Me too!

Paul

07-05-2023, 04:37 PM	#1
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 876 Likes: 279 Liked 1,354 Times in 413 Posts	Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH! I guess either the manufacture or someone has to submit something for the V6 combo. Surely not a "dime rocket" but the "new"Challenger is 15 yrs old. 50 yr old cars are good to go though. Paul

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GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 876 Likes: 279 Liked 1,354 Times in 413 Posts	Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH! Since Paul Wong and I got into building the 5.7 street version. I always wondered why the V6 wasn't in the books. Sure are more of those then Hemis I bet. The SOHC 3.5L has had some changes here and there. Don't go by me. I haven't researched it a ounce. I think it was 215 hp and thru the years was pumped up to 230. Get some generous NHRA person to start it out lower than listed. A real street car with some small mods (headers and what ever) might run index.. Paul

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mike britt Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Italy, Texas Posts: 177 Likes: 377 Liked 66 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH! How are you going to put headers on an engine with only one port per bank?

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GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 876 Likes: 279 Liked 1,354 Times in 413 Posts	Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH! carefully?

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kdanner Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 221 Likes: 50 Liked 38 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH! I'm fairly certain the 3.5L used through 2010 had 3 exhaust ports in the head, it's the 2011-up 3.6L that doesn't. __________________ K Danner STK 468

07-06-2023, 12:51 AM	#8
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 876 Likes: 279 Liked 1,354 Times in 413 Posts	Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH! Not my concern either way. The SOHC engine has 6 exhaust ports if your worried. Your talking about a DOHC engine with one port.

07-09-2023, 08:52 PM	#10
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 876 Likes: 279 Liked 1,354 Times in 413 Posts	Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH! I had to look at it now that I opened my mouth. So hopefully I'm close. If not forgive me. The Dodge 3.5L SOHC is listed as 250 hp and ended in 2010 models. The 3.6L DOHC V6 is rated as 305 hp. 8 speed transmissions came into play 2015. The same 3.6L in a Charger is rated 292 (exhaust or tune better in the Challenger?). Now at the same time the 5.7 Hemi is rated at 376 hp and is in the book at 300. If either V6s were in the book, which they should be. I would think those combos should get the same percentage off on their advertized Hp ratings to start. Not like there is a mad rush to build street 5.7 Hemis either. Some younger folks like new cars. Me too! Paul