1967-68 SS/C-D Hemi B-Body: Cold Air or Flat Hood?

[Rat Patrol]

Steve - whats your guess on this car - looks to be a 440 - 67 SpringNats?

[Steve Stasko]

Originally Posted by Rat Patrol

Steve - whats your guess on this car - looks to be a 440 - 67 SpringNats?

Yes...the 440 car. White interior, GTX emblem on the fender.

Frank...I'm a nobody in the grand scheme of all things Mopar. I just enjoy the history of Chrysler Racing, and searching for lost race cars. While I have done an extensive amount of research on '67 cars, my heart is with the '64 and '65 cars. The information I provided in this post is easily found across the web, especially if you search this particular forum. You just have to put the pieces of the puzzle together (dating photos, events, etc). I'm not claiming to be the end all expert on this, nor will I ever, because there's too many people that are gone now who could fill in blanks.

[Rat Patrol]

Originally Posted by Steve Stasko

Yes...the 440 car. White interior, GTX emblem on the fender.

Frank...I'm a nobody in the grand scheme of all things Mopar. I just enjoy the history of Chrysler Racing, and searching for lost race cars. While I have done an extensive amount of research on '67 cars, my heart is with the '64 and '65 cars. The information I provided in this post is easily found across the web, especially if you search this particular forum. You just have to put the pieces of the puzzle together (dating photos, events, etc). I'm not claiming to be the end all expert on this, nor will I ever, because there's too many people that are gone now who could fill in blanks.

Steve, do you use Facebook at all? I’ve compiled a couple of lists over time, of the A864 and A990 cars, original drivers and owners.

Have you seen them?

[Rat Patrol]

I found this..Grotheer...67...but no scoop.

I have no idea where this fits

[340Cuda]

Originally Posted by Rat Patrol

I found this..Grotheer...67...but no scoop.

I have no idea where this fits

Was there supposed to be a photo?

I am pretty familiar with that car as I crewed for the second owner and knew Don and the car before that. It always had a scoop as far as I know.

[Rat Patrol]

I know it says SS/B....would this have been the 67 Winter Nationals car ?

I read that the 66 drivetrain was swapped into it?

[Steve Stasko]

Originally Posted by Rat Patrol

Steve, do you use Facebook at all? I’ve compiled a couple of lists over time, of the A864 and A990 cars, original drivers and owners.

Have you seen them?

Never seen them. I have been doing my own using the dealer code info from Darrell's books. Trying to match cars to areas. Some of the engineering cars throw you for a loop...but when you match vins and etc, you can put some of that together. I know of an engineering R051 car that is still owned by the original owner.

Some of that stuff that was published by others on Facebook a few years back was bogus. When one dealer tells me they received two '64 A864 Dodges, and has paper and photo documentation showing you such, but neither car was included on the published "lists", for example. (EDIT: I should add that I offered to share info without success. This person was convinced that they could find original owners just by searching results from 1964.) A lot of these cars traded hands quick due to lack of experience with the Hemi in 1964 and 1965. Some racers were very frustrated when they couldn't get their Hemi car to run better than the Wedge they just abandoned. I don't think anyone will ever be able to put an exact list together, but there is enough info to get pretty close.

Originally Posted by Rat Patrol

I know it says SS/B....would this have been the 67 Winter Nationals car ?

I read that the 66 drivetrain was swapped into it?

That photo is pretty washed out across the top. It may or may not have a scoop on it. It was definitely a converted 6-cyl car. I haven't spoken to Don on that exactly, but have heard it from a couple sources that are close to him to say it is truth.

The '67 cars were really a horrible after thought. There were plans in '66 to do another A990 type package, but that never followed through. At the same time though, a lot of racers liked the '67 cars because they were more "complete" and didn't require a bunch of extra work...like the '68 cars did.

You know what's really interesting about '67 Package cars? How many original paint survivors there still are in existence. I can think of four Dodges and one Plymouth right off the top of my head. I still have a fair amount of cars unaccounted for though.