New AHFS

[1347]

Originally Posted by denbreeden

NMCA is the place to be, granted it doesn’t help the racers out west.

Why is NMCA the place to be?

They use an NHRA rulebook correct? Or do they have there own Stock/SuperStock rule book? what do they do to adjust indexes? And how does their system work better than the NHRA system? I've been hearing people post on here and Facebook for a while that we should dump NHRA and make the switch, but other than me seeing maybe 20 or 30 cars in a qualifying sheet not really sure of the parody or differences that make them much better.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio

Indy will be mineshaft. After that doubtful

This year #42 was .948 under......

[denbreeden]

Originally Posted by 1347

Why is NMCA the place to be?

They use an NHRA rulebook correct? Or do they have there own Stock/SuperStock rule book? what do they do to adjust indexes? And how does their system work better than the NHRA system? I've been hearing people post on here and Facebook for a while that we should dump NHRA and make the switch, but other than me seeing maybe 20 or 30 cars in a qualifying sheet not really sure of the parody or differences that make them much better.

They do not use any factoring system and there are no penalties for going fast. They use NHRA rules and IHRA indexes but no punishment for being fast.

[Glenn Briglio]

Originally Posted by GUMP

This year #42 was .948 under......

And the previous 5 years ?

[Mike Pearson]

Everyone on this site knows there are some disparities in HP factoring in stock and super stock. There are some soft combos that people have been protecting for a long time. My car is a bad combo. Small cu in and has been hit many times over the years. There are some combos in my class that have 50 more cu in and also a lower HP rating than my combo No amount of hard work and money could get me anywhere near close to that combo. There are others similar that have 25 more Cu In and a lower HP factor. None of this matters to me because I know I cant win class or a heads up against these other combos. I just have to hope that I dont see them in eliminations. In my case I hope the AHFS helps out a bit in that regard. If I was anywhere near striking distance i might spend some more money and try to catch up. No chance of that right now though.

Personally I think mineshaft should be weather related before it is placed into effect. Low temp, low humidity and high Barometer should be the trigger along with stiff tail wind.

[Rory McNeil]

Originally Posted by denbreeden

They do not use any factoring system and there are no penalties for going fast. They use NHRA rules and IHRA indexes but no punishment for being fast.

so,... I suppose if somebody found some oddball, obscure combination lurking in the classification guide, that could run 1 1/2 seconds under , right off the bat, everybody would be cool with that never getting checked into? Kinds like years ago,when Glen Tinsley found a SS/GT combo with a Ford 460 4 barrel engine,that was rated at less than 200 HP? Also, does NMCA do teardowns like NHRA, and allow the same superseded and "replacement " parts? If NHRA adds or subtracts HP, does NMCA follow suit?

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio

And the previous 5 years ?

2020 was an abbreviated schedule, lower car count, and didn't make mineshaft. 2019 ,18, 17 would have made it easily ,@ .95 under.
Without flat out conditions, I doubt you'll see it at Indy.

[Jim Wahl]

Originally Posted by GUMP

As they are planning to watch the incrementals, I can't see that as an option.

Whoever wrote these changes obviously didn't do their homework!

Charlie don't surf! Jim



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[GTS340]

Is that the way an odd number qualifying field calculated the mineshaft breaks (87car field +1=88 divided by 2=44 + 1 =45) before or is this a rule change. I would have had the 87 car field break at 44.

Paul Haszlauer

[1347]

Originally Posted by denbreeden

They do not use any factoring system and there are no penalties for going fast. They use NHRA rules and IHRA indexes but no punishment for being fast.

So how is that good unless you have one of the fast cars, or an obscure combo that you found in the deep depths of the book? Then you can run your car as fast as you want for heads up races without ever having to worry about anything.