Rare cars still being raced

Stan Weiss · 11-10-2021, 11:30 AM

I see different people have different ideas as to what is a rare car being raced. I tend to think anything that was produced in numbers down around the 50 min that NHRA required or less is a rare car.

Stan

Steve Stasko · 11-10-2021, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

I see different people have different ideas as to what is a rare car being raced. I tend to think anything that was produced in numbers down around the 50 min that NHRA required or less is a rare car.

Stan

Rare and uncommon are often confused in the automotive world.

oldskool · 11-10-2021, 02:40 PM

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Billy Nees · 11-10-2021, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by oldskool

No, the '67 Bird is not rare, from a sales standpoint. But how many currently active '67 Bird Stockers are ya'll aware of ? The only other one I'm aware of belongs to Bryan Phillips. And Joel Larkin has a '67 SS Bird. That's 3. If there are others, I'm not aware, at this moment. But, if there are others, I'd like to know. So, if ya'll know of others, please post that info.

OS, I think that the original thought behind this thread was rare OEM cars (orig. RA2, 428 CJ) that are still being raced. Personally, I think that anyone still racing an original and rare car is nuts but I've been called the same for the stuff that I do.
Going by your premise, I guess that my LeMans is the rarest Pontiac out there. It's 1 of 1.
AND OBTW, a "small block" Pontiac!

Frank Castros · 11-10-2021, 03:30 PM

Oldskool,
With all respect due to you as you bring much to this forum, I agree with Billy that this thread had been hijacked from it's original premise.

oldskool · 11-10-2021, 07:35 PM

"...the original thought behind this thread was rare OEM cars (orig. RA2, 428 CJ) that are still being raced..."

OK, going strictly by that, I have no way of knowing about EVERY Pontiac, which ones may have been "ORIGINAL" RA2, RA4, 455HO, SD455, or other rare cars.

I've read that John Clegg bought his '73 SD455 Bird new. So, is that "rare" ? What was the max number of units sold allowed, and still could be called "rare". Like, would less than 100 units be "rare", but 500 or more units would NOT be rare ? Who determines the standard ?

Another Pontiac example: Bruce Noland has a '69 T/A, clone or tribute. Only one I know of in class racing. Also running a RA4 engine. BUT, not a factory built combo. So, if that car wouldn't qualify for this thread, then most of the cars I mentioned wouldn't either. And I know almost nothing about most of the cars, especially not whether they came from the factory with the rare equipment, or not.

So, I suppose MOST of the cars I posted do NOT qualify for this thread.

My apologies to all who thought my posts were inappropriate !

Frank Castros · 11-10-2021, 08:02 PM

Dude, read the first post. That's the standard.
For me the Wenzel's Z/28 is THE standard.

11-10-2021, 11:30 AM	#1
Stan Weiss Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Phila, PA Posts: 796 Likes: 0 Liked 735 Times in 386 Posts	Re: Rare cars still being raced I see different people have different ideas as to what is a rare car being raced. I tend to think anything that was produced in numbers down around the 50 min that NHRA required or less is a rare car. Stan

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oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Rare cars still being raced Deleted Last edited by oldskool; 11-10-2021 at 07:33 PM.

11-10-2021, 03:30 PM	#5
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 3,002 Likes: 2,654 Liked 2,752 Times in 973 Posts	Re: Rare cars still being raced Oldskool, With all respect due to you as you bring much to this forum, I agree with Billy that this thread had been hijacked from it's original premise.

11-10-2021, 07:35 PM	#6
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Rare cars still being raced "...the original thought behind this thread was rare OEM cars (orig. RA2, 428 CJ) that are still being raced..." OK, going strictly by that, I have no way of knowing about EVERY Pontiac, which ones may have been "ORIGINAL" RA2, RA4, 455HO, SD455, or other rare cars. I've read that John Clegg bought his '73 SD455 Bird new. So, is that "rare" ? What was the max number of units sold allowed, and still could be called "rare". Like, would less than 100 units be "rare", but 500 or more units would NOT be rare ? Who determines the standard ? Another Pontiac example: Bruce Noland has a '69 T/A, clone or tribute. Only one I know of in class racing. Also running a RA4 engine. BUT, not a factory built combo. So, if that car wouldn't qualify for this thread, then most of the cars I mentioned wouldn't either. And I know almost nothing about most of the cars, especially not whether they came from the factory with the rare equipment, or not. So, I suppose MOST of the cars I posted do NOT qualify for this thread. My apologies to all who thought my posts were inappropriate !

11-10-2021, 08:02 PM	#7
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 3,002 Likes: 2,654 Liked 2,752 Times in 973 Posts	Re: Rare cars still being raced Dude, read the first post. That's the standard. For me the Wenzel's Z/28 is THE standard.