Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers

Tatr · 10-18-2021, 11:48 AM

I ran my 3rd gen.Firebird (TAT’R) in GT/FA,GT/GA and GT/HA for a few years with 6x 400 power,Ran some 10.20s in GT/HA IN 1999-2004. Also ran 425 caddy for a few races.set GT/KA (Bristol )& GT/LA (Orlando)records with caddy power. Now owned by John Frech. Can’t seem to be able to download photo. Bruce Campbell former NHRA/IHRA 2704 S/SS

oldskool · 10-18-2021, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tatr

I ran my 3rd gen.Firebird (TAT’R) in GT/FA,GT/GA and GT/HA for a few years with 6x 400 power,Ran some 10.20s in GT/HA IN 1999-2004. Also ran 425 caddy for a few races.set GT/KA (Bristol )& GT/LA (Orlando)records with caddy power. Now owned by John Frech. Can’t seem to be able to download photo. Bruce Campbell former NHRA/IHRA 2704 S/SS

Give me some division and/or nat events you ran, with the Pontiac engine. I did a search for your name on DRC. Got results from several Bruce's, but not yours. Then tried B Campbell. Got results for several Campbells, but not yours.

OK, you mentioned Bristol. Found you at Bristol '03, running a GT/HA '88 Bird. Was #69, with a 10.743. So, if I understand your info correctly, this was done with a 6X head 400 Pontiac engine. If this is NOT correct, please post links to Q-lists where you were running a 6X head 400.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2003#indextop

So, can you name some races that would be on the DRC files, where you ran those low 10's, with Pontiac power ?

Would love to have some good pics for my files, so I can post 'em in a few places. There are probably several other Pontiac powered GT cars I don't know about, that have run since GT began, because the brand of engine is seldom listed on DRC Q-lists. And I have even less info from before 1998.

oldskool · 10-19-2021, 09:26 AM

I've mentioned that unless the brand, or sometimes the size of an engine is listed on a Q-list I find online, there is no way for me to know which GT cars have Pontiac power.

And even then, sometimes I can't tell, from the online info.

For example: If the engine is just listed as a 350. That could be any one of several GM brands, but usually means a Chevy brand 350. Same for 400 cube engines, & 455 cube engines.

But, if it's listed as a 326, 389, 421, or 428, in a GM body, that sorta narrows it down.

So, for you guys reading this, who know, if you see that I'm listing a car as being Pontiac powered which is not, or was not at the time I'm referring to, please post that info here, so that I can correct my files & post only accurate info

Thanks to all who will help me with this. I've posted a Pontiac winner here, when actually, the car was another brand. It was just listed wrong on DRC. Also posted that a guy was driving a Corvette, when he was actually driving his newly debuted '69 T/A tribute car. In both cases, I just posted the info I read on DRC. But, just because you read it on DRC, don't make it true.

So, if any of you guys know of Pontiac powered GT cars I have not listed, OR know of some I have listed as being Pontiac powered, when they are(were) not, PLEASE post that info, so I can correct it. Don't wanna leave out any Pontiac powered GT cars, or post that any cars were Pontiac powered, that weren't.

Thanks for any & all help in getting this info correct !

Tatr · 10-19-2021, 10:46 AM

I won the 1999 NHRA division 2 points meet @atlanta ga. Ran an old worn engine 6x 400 but still did ok. Ran the div2 national open in Montgomery Ala.don’t remember which year. Tried to get gt/ha record of 10.25 ,best it would run was 10.261, close but no cigar. Ran IHRA national event @ darlington SC,IHRA Divisonal &farmington nc (runner up). , IHRA Carolina dragway sc. (runner up). Hard to remember Dates of all races I entered, getting old and forgetful. Bruce Campbell former 2704 S/SS

Stan Weiss · 10-19-2021, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tatr

I won the 1999 NHRA division 2 points meet @atlanta ga. Ran an old worn engine 6x 400 but still did ok. Ran the div2 national open in Montgomery Ala.don’t remember which year. Tried to get gt/ha record of 10.25 ,best it would run was 10.261, close but no cigar. Ran IHRA national event @ darlington SC,IHRA Divisonal &farmington nc (runner up). , IHRA Carolina dragway sc. (runner up). Hard to remember Dates of all races I entered, getting old and forgetful. Bruce Campbell former 2704 S/SS

Bruce,
What RPM were you turning with the 6x 400? I would be interested in any other information about the engine you might be willing to share.

Thanks
Stan

oldskool · 10-19-2021, 12:11 PM

Here he is at Rockingham in '01, listed as driving an '82 Bird @ #8, with a 10.336.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=37286

Couldn't find any of the div races mentioned. Back in those days, I don't think DRC had results for all the div races.

But hey, Bruce is on the DRC map !

Tatr · 10-19-2021, 03:31 PM

Stan, Used to turn it 1-2 shift 6600, 2-3 shift 7000,7600 + thru the traps 1/4 mile .Was hard to due with stock block. Had to due a lot of buttom end work to keep oil in the pan. Also had junk heads back then, non welded exhaust, no intake epoxy.we did it all without a Dyno. Now have access to a dyno,but too old to start over again. With all the new stuff (technology) you could make the 400 combo fly. Bruce Campbell. Former 2704 S/SS

Tatr · 10-19-2021, 03:34 PM

Stan, Used to turn it 1-2 shift 6600, 2-3 shift 7000,7600 + thru the traps 1/4 mile .Was hard to due with stock block. Had to due a lot of buttom end work to keep oil in the pan. Also had junk heads back then, non welded exhaust, no intake epoxy.we did it all without a Dyno. Now have access to a dyno,but too old to start over again. With all the new stuff (technology) you could make the 400 combo fly. There’s a picture of it on autoimagery Bristol 2001? Can’t seem to be able to post it. Bruce Campbell. Former 2704 S/SS

Tatr · 10-19-2021, 03:38 PM

Stan, Used to turn it 1-2 shift 6600, 2-3 shift 7000,7600 + thru the traps 1/4 mile .Was hard to due with stock block. Had to due a lot of buttom end work to keep oil in the pan. Also had junk heads back then, non welded exhaust, no intake epoxy.we did it all without a Dyno. Now have access to a dyno,but too old to start over again. With all the new stuff (technology) you could make the 400 combo fly. There’s a picture of it on autoimagery Bristol 2001Bruce Campbell. Former 2704 S/SS

Stan Weiss · 10-20-2021, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatr

I ran my 3rd gen.Firebird (TAT’R) in GT/FA,GT/GA and GT/HA for a few years with 6x 400 power,Ran some 10.20s in GT/HA IN 1999-2004. Also ran 425 caddy for a few races.set GT/KA (Bristol )& GT/LA (Orlando)records with caddy power. Now owned by John Frech. Can’t seem to be able to download photo. Bruce Campbell former NHRA/IHRA 2704 S/SS

Bruce.
In 2002 would this be with the 6x 400 power?

2002 Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series

DIVISION 2
Silver Dollar Raceway
Reynolds, GA May 31-June 2

SUPER STOCK
9. Bruce Campbell, Waynesville, N.C., GT/HA, '88 Firebird, 10.575, -0.775

DIVISION 2
Atlanta Dragway
Commerce, GA August 9-11

SUPER STOCK
8. Bruce Campbell, Waynesville, N.C., '88 Firebird, GT/HA, 10.535, -0.815

DIVISION 2
Darlington International Dragway
Darlington, SC October 4-6

SUPER STOCK
10)Bruce Campbell, Waynesville, N.C., GT/HA, '88 Firebird, 10.458, -0.892

Stan

10-18-2021, 11:48 AM	#1
Tatr Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 33 Likes: 4 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers I ran my 3rd gen.Firebird (TAT’R) in GT/FA,GT/GA and GT/HA for a few years with 6x 400 power,Ran some 10.20s in GT/HA IN 1999-2004. Also ran 425 caddy for a few races.set GT/KA (Bristol )& GT/LA (Orlando)records with caddy power. Now owned by John Frech. Can’t seem to be able to download photo. Bruce Campbell former NHRA/IHRA 2704 S/SS

10-19-2021, 09:26 AM	#3
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers I've mentioned that unless the brand, or sometimes the size of an engine is listed on a Q-list I find online, there is no way for me to know which GT cars have Pontiac power. And even then, sometimes I can't tell, from the online info. For example: If the engine is just listed as a 350. That could be any one of several GM brands, but usually means a Chevy brand 350. Same for 400 cube engines, & 455 cube engines. But, if it's listed as a 326, 389, 421, or 428, in a GM body, that sorta narrows it down. So, for you guys reading this, who know, if you see that I'm listing a car as being Pontiac powered which is not, or was not at the time I'm referring to, please post that info here, so that I can correct my files & post only accurate info Thanks to all who will help me with this. I've posted a Pontiac winner here, when actually, the car was another brand. It was just listed wrong on DRC. Also posted that a guy was driving a Corvette, when he was actually driving his newly debuted '69 T/A tribute car. In both cases, I just posted the info I read on DRC. But, just because you read it on DRC, don't make it true. So, if any of you guys know of Pontiac powered GT cars I have not listed, OR know of some I have listed as being Pontiac powered, when they are(were) not, PLEASE post that info, so I can correct it. Don't wanna leave out any Pontiac powered GT cars, or post that any cars were Pontiac powered, that weren't. Thanks for any & all help in getting this info correct ! Last edited by oldskool; 10-19-2021 at 09:37 AM.

10-19-2021, 10:46 AM	#4
Tatr Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 33 Likes: 4 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers I won the 1999 NHRA division 2 points meet @atlanta ga. Ran an old worn engine 6x 400 but still did ok. Ran the div2 national open in Montgomery Ala.don’t remember which year. Tried to get gt/ha record of 10.25 ,best it would run was 10.261, close but no cigar. Ran IHRA national event @ darlington SC,IHRA Divisonal &farmington nc (runner up). , IHRA Carolina dragway sc. (runner up). Hard to remember Dates of all races I entered, getting old and forgetful. Bruce Campbell former 2704 S/SS

10-19-2021, 03:31 PM	#7
Tatr Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 33 Likes: 4 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers Stan, Used to turn it 1-2 shift 6600, 2-3 shift 7000,7600 + thru the traps 1/4 mile .Was hard to due with stock block. Had to due a lot of buttom end work to keep oil in the pan. Also had junk heads back then, non welded exhaust, no intake epoxy.we did it all without a Dyno. Now have access to a dyno,but too old to start over again. With all the new stuff (technology) you could make the 400 combo fly. Bruce Campbell. Former 2704 S/SS

10-19-2021, 03:38 PM	#9
Tatr Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 33 Likes: 4 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers Stan, Used to turn it 1-2 shift 6600, 2-3 shift 7000,7600 + thru the traps 1/4 mile .Was hard to due with stock block. Had to due a lot of buttom end work to keep oil in the pan. Also had junk heads back then, non welded exhaust, no intake epoxy.we did it all without a Dyno. Now have access to a dyno,but too old to start over again. With all the new stuff (technology) you could make the 400 combo fly. There’s a picture of it on autoimagery Bristol 2001Bruce Campbell. Former 2704 S/SS

10-19-2021, 12:11 PM	#6
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers Here he is at Rockingham in '01, listed as driving an '82 Bird @ #8, with a 10.336. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=37286 Couldn't find any of the div races mentioned. Back in those days, I don't think DRC had results for all the div races. But hey, Bruce is on the DRC map ! Last edited by oldskool; 10-19-2021 at 12:13 PM.

10-19-2021, 03:34 PM	#8
Tatr Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 33 Likes: 4 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers Stan, Used to turn it 1-2 shift 6600, 2-3 shift 7000,7600 + thru the traps 1/4 mile .Was hard to due with stock block. Had to due a lot of buttom end work to keep oil in the pan. Also had junk heads back then, non welded exhaust, no intake epoxy.we did it all without a Dyno. Now have access to a dyno,but too old to start over again. With all the new stuff (technology) you could make the 400 combo fly. There’s a picture of it on autoimagery Bristol 2001? Can’t seem to be able to post it. Bruce Campbell. Former 2704 S/SS