Muscle cars the factory should have built - Page 2

BlueOval Ralph · 12-21-2011, 12:53 PM

As I remember the SK mr heads were as good or better than Hr?

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Originally Posted by Stephen & Horace Johnson

66-67 fairlane with hi riser heads on the 427

Stephen & Horace Johnson · 12-21-2011, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

As I remember the SK mr heads were as good or better than Hr?

no sir

Mike Gray · 12-21-2011, 09:40 PM

I did the tunnel port in a mustang for them. In 1983 I purchased a 427 tunnel port from Mickey Thompson that Ford had given him. I put it in a '67 mustang and it ran 10.80's bone stock with headers, 3500 stall and 4.56 gears.

treessavoy · 12-22-2011, 02:59 AM

'64-'65 Chevy ll and Chevelle with the Corvette 327/365 hp.

'64-'65 falcon with the 289/271hp with 4sp.

'63-'65 Valiant/Dart with the hyper-pack 225 slant six and 4sp.

'64-'65 Mopar B-body with a street friendly Hemi.

'68-'70 AMX with a 401 and cross ram.

'67-'70 Mustang with the 427 with dual quads.

'64-'65 Fairlane with a streetable 427.

JimR

Paul Ceasrine · 12-22-2011, 08:06 AM

Jim,,,,,

You sure like those Mopar Packages,,,,,

Always wondered,

1965 1/2 Buick GS
The car only weighed #3393 lbs.
With a, 425/380 HP,,,,,,,,(Y48 option, dual-quad intake and radical cam)
Wt/Hp = 8.93
Car optioned with 4.45 Gears/Posi-traction and Belanger Headers

May have forced the NHRA to create a BB/Stock Class for 1965,,,,,,
8.70 to 9.29 Wt/Hp Factor
That would have been nice,,,,,,,,,,,,

Bobby DiDomenico · 12-22-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Denysenko

I'm sure that every one of you as me at one time or another imagined, bench raced about or maybe even actually created one of these muscle cars.

Anyone of us could have been a Don Yenko, Carrol Shelby, Geroge Hurst, or Mr. Norm if the factory's would have just listened.

It would have been so easy as all parts were readily available and fit without modifications to existing platforms.

In many cases some of these actually made it to the prototype stages but for whatever reason, be it fears of insurance surcharges, bean counters, emissions, or internal politics none ever became production packages.

This is my list in no particular preferance of cars that the factories should have built.

Feel free to add to this thread espcially if you can think of any more that I may have missed.

Alex,
You left out your friends Stage 2 Buick. (Wait, they actually produced all the parts and sold them as a kit, just not installed. Wonder what fool thought that plan up.) Imagine it with a 'glass hood, plastic fenderwells, and aluminum heads!

442OLDS · 12-22-2011, 03:40 PM

425 in a 442 definitely would have been a good combo!

copperhead · 12-22-2011, 04:31 PM

I like Dave's idea. A '70 Maverick with the Boss 302 or a '71 with the Boss 351.

BlueOval Ralph · 12-22-2011, 05:41 PM

351 need spring towers cut.
A neater car would have been the German Capri that was imported here. Here is some in sight on the in 1971 Ford of Germany built a kit to put the Boss 302 in these cars. %0 were built for South Africa for Rally teams. Engine fit perfect you could build good headers and put a large oil pan on. Only problem was the real wheel wells were very small.
Ralph

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Originally Posted by copperhead

I like Dave's idea. A '70 Maverick with the Boss 302 or a '71 with the Boss 351.

oldskool · 09-24-2021, 01:16 AM

455 in the 1970 Firebird. Of course, it would have been better with the RAIV round port heads. But, even with the #64 D-ports, it would have been a great way to introduce the 2nd gen Birds, IMO.

But, as it was, there was never a high compression 455 in a Bird.

Would have also been nice to have a 455, or at least a good 400 in the X-body '74 GTO. It's a shame the GTO went out with only a low CR 350.

12-21-2011, 09:40 PM	#13
Mike Gray Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 614 Likes: 307 Liked 685 Times in 196 Posts	Re: Muscle cars the factory should have built I did the tunnel port in a mustang for them. In 1983 I purchased a 427 tunnel port from Mickey Thompson that Ford had given him. I put it in a '67 mustang and it ran 10.80's bone stock with headers, 3500 stall and 4.56 gears.

12-22-2011, 02:59 AM	#14
treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Muscle cars the factory should have built '64-'65 Chevy ll and Chevelle with the Corvette 327/365 hp. '64-'65 falcon with the 289/271hp with 4sp. '63-'65 Valiant/Dart with the hyper-pack 225 slant six and 4sp. '64-'65 Mopar B-body with a street friendly Hemi. '68-'70 AMX with a 401 and cross ram. '67-'70 Mustang with the 427 with dual quads. '64-'65 Fairlane with a streetable 427. JimR __________________ Jim Rountree

12-22-2011, 08:06 AM	#15
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Muscle cars the factory should have built Jim,,,,, You sure like those Mopar Packages,,,,, Always wondered, 1965 1/2 Buick GS The car only weighed #3393 lbs. With a, 425/380 HP,,,,,,,,(Y48 option, dual-quad intake and radical cam) Wt/Hp = 8.93 Car optioned with 4.45 Gears/Posi-traction and Belanger Headers May have forced the NHRA to create a BB/Stock Class for 1965,,,,,, 8.70 to 9.29 Wt/Hp Factor That would have been nice,,,,,,,,,,,,

12-22-2011, 03:40 PM	#17
442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,338 Likes: 5 Liked 281 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Muscle cars the factory should have built 425 in a 442 definitely would have been a good combo!

12-22-2011, 04:31 PM	#18
copperhead Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ks Posts: 140 Likes: 198 Liked 11 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Muscle cars the factory should have built I like Dave's idea. A '70 Maverick with the Boss 302 or a '71 with the Boss 351.

09-24-2021, 01:16 AM	#20
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Muscle cars the factory should have built 455 in the 1970 Firebird. Of course, it would have been better with the RAIV round port heads. But, even with the #64 D-ports, it would have been a great way to introduce the 2nd gen Birds, IMO. But, as it was, there was never a high compression 455 in a Bird. Would have also been nice to have a 455, or at least a good 400 in the X-body '74 GTO. It's a shame the GTO went out with only a low CR 350.