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Old 09-10-2020, 08:55 PM   #1
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Default Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers

Now we'll look again at the 3rd gen GT Bird driven by Greg Meyer. It's usually listed as a '92 model. Greg runs a 400 engine. I think he's used both 4X & 6X heads. Not sure. If he ever reads this, he can correct info as needed.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...8&postcount=25

6/4/09 - Route 66 Nats - #29 - 1.006 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=182963

9/4/09 - US Nats - #85 - 1.091 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop

8/15/14 - Lucas Oil Nats - #6 - .861 under - GT/HA Class Win.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=289379

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=289462

8/21/15 - Lucas Oil Nats - #3 - .969 under - GT/HA Class Win.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=303796

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=303795

8/18/16 - Lucas Oil Nats - #2 - .878 under - GT/HA Class Win.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=316975

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=316978

8/17/17 - Lucas Oil Nats - #3 - .904 under - GT/LA Class Winner.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...UMMIT#indextop

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

10/20/18 - div 3-6 - #8 - 9.986 - .914 under - Got R/U.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...er=30#indextop

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop

Ran across a LOT more lists where Greg was .800 or more under his index. Too many to list. I think the car could easily run more than a sec under at lots of tracks. But, as all here know, that will get a hp hit from NHRA.
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Old 09-10-2020, 09:47 PM   #2
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There have been several Pontiac powered 4th gen GT BIrds. I suppose the Hatari Bird is the most famous. Leo Glasbrenner ran one for several years.

The one I wanna look at next has been most recently driven by John Agneta. I've seen it referred to as the Johnny Duncan car. 3 pics I have were taken when Johnny was driving the car. His #3256 is on the windshield. The car also shows up, under Johnny's name, on the Auto Imagery site.

I'm not sure of this, but another pic I have was said to be of a car that Sam Biondo was driving. Auto Imagery does indeed show a very similar looking car, under his name. So, until/unless I find out different, I'll assume it is the same car. That means that Sal & Peter Biondo probably also drove it some. So, the car probably made LOTS of races, while the Biondo's were racing it.

Anyhow, it shows up on DRC as a '95 model, with Johnny Duncan driving, in 2008.

4/25/08 - Southern Nats - #53 - .860 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop

5/16/08 - Thunder Valley Nats - #31 - .663 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop

4/17/09 - Southern Nats - #45 - .854 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop

7/19/14 - div 3 race - #56 - .538 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

10/19/14 - Northern Sports Nats - #49 - .609 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

6/19/15 - Thunder Valley Nats - #22 - .384 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop

I have no idea who owned it after Johnny, or who owns it now. Another Pontiac GT racer posted that when John Agneta drove it, the car had a 4X head 400 in it.

At this race, Sean Pickett was driving it, listed as a '96 model. At that race, John Agneta was listed @ #27, driving a '98 Bird. That was said to be the Phil Monteith "Hatari" Bird.

8/19/17 - div 1-6 - #23 - .745 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop
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Old 09-12-2020, 02:07 PM   #3
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Hey, the Class Racer Nats came along just in time.

A pic was posted showing what I assume is the red Bird I just mentioned, as well as the white Hatari Bird.

It was posted that Sal Biondo is driving the white Bird, & Sean Pickett is driving the red Bird. Both cars now have "Hatari" on 'em. Don't know if that means that Phil Monteith owns both cars, or just that he has a hand in both.

John Agneta posted that he & Sean Pickett own the red car, & Phil owns the white car, & that the white car has a Montieth Racing 428 & the red car a 400. Dylan Biondo's Stocker also has a small Hatari on it. So I assume that's also one of Phil's engines, or at least he had a hand in it.
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Old 09-12-2020, 07:37 PM   #4
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At Earlville, according to the DRTV video, Bill Rink's little '74 GTO was #1 qualifier in SS, @ 1.145 under !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...er=30#indextop
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At the Texas double, this past weekend. J.B. Clegg ran a 9.623, in the Clegg '73 SD455 Bird. As far as I know, this is the quickest reg SS Pontiac powered car ever, unless their '74 SD455 Bird went quicker. Don't know what the best ever ET is, for either car.

But, both of those were stick cars, when they ran their quickest times. As far as I know, the John Angeles '69 RAIV Bird is the quickest ever reg SS Pontiac powered car, which had an auto trans. John's daughter, Keri, has done most of the driving, for many years now, & is said to have made the 1st ever 9 sec pass, in a reg SS Pontiac powered car, back in 2000.

Don't know what the car's quickest ever time is, in reg SS legal form. But I know it went 9.765, back in 2006. Don't think another reg SS Pontiac powered auto trans car has gone anywhere near that quick.

As always, if anybody knows this info to be incorrect, please post the correct info.
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At the 5th div 3 Lucas Oil Series race of 2020, Don Kennedy was #1 qualifier & the only car in the field more than a sec under his index. Not sure, but I assume that 9.042 ET was not far from the car's best ever ET. Have never seen a recorded time for the car, in the 8's.

9/26/20 - div 3-5 - #1 - 9.042 - 1.058 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2020#indextop

For any who may not know, Don's little Sunfire is powered by an alum head 428 Pontiac engine.
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Carrol Warling's beautiful GTO last weekend at Kearney, Ne. MCR event:

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