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[Grey Ghost]

Originally Posted by jwsamuel

There is no insurance program called Obamacare. The ACA - also known as Obamacare -- is just a marketplace in which private insurance companies sell their policies to people who do not get insurance from their employers.

If you are paying a lot of money for a bad policy, that's what the private companies are selling you.

The ACA was land mark legislation. You and Lew should be proud to have it named after your president Obama if it were in fact such a brilliant piece of legislation. Yet you are offended with the nick name "obama care". What gives????

Those of us who are self employed know what a piece of crap obama care is. Our income varies year to year and we will never get on the "exchange" due to the severe fines (taxes as Roberts defines it) that are levied for exceeding income thresholds. Our private insurance premium is $17.2k a year and that doesn't include co-pay and it's a far superior policy for much less money than obamacare.

I'm sure you're aware the federal gov gets a healty cut for administratiing that piece of crap exchange.You know so little about so much.

I didn't want to disappoint you Jim.

[Stan Weiss]

Oh the difference a name makes. Maybe you should check the polling in some of those "RED" states. It is very interesting to see the different in opinion between Obamacare and the ACA.

Stan

[jwsamuel]

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

The ACA was land mark legislation.

Republicans should like ti too. After all, the ACA was based on a proposal by the Heritage Foundation and was the basis of Bob Dole's healthcare plan when he ran for president in 1996.

In short, Republicans were for it until they were against it.

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

You and Lew should be proud to have it named after your president Obama if it were in fact such a brilliant piece of legislation. Yet you are offended with the nick name "obama care". What gives????

Who said we are offended by it?

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

Those of us who are self employed know what a piece of crap obama care is. Our income varies year to year and we will never get on the "exchange" due to the severe fines (taxes as Roberts defines it) that are levied for exceeding income thresholds.

What are you talking about? There are no fines for exceeding income thresholds. There are subsidies for low-income people.

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

Our private insurance premium is $17.2k a year and that doesn't include co-pay and it's a far superior policy for much less money than obamacare.

Once again, Obamacare does not set the rates. Rates are set by the insurance companies under the laws of each state. If the rates are high in you state, look to the state government.

Also keep in mind that any increases that occurred in 2018 or after are the result of changes the Trump administration made to the ACA. SO if your costs went up for 2018 or later, blame Trump.

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

I'm sure you're aware the federal gov gets a healty cut for administratiing that piece of crap exchange.You know so little about so much.

Not true.

[Grey Ghost]

Originally Posted by jwsamuel

Republicans should like ti too. After all, the ACA was based on a proposal by the Heritage Foundation and was the basis of Bob Dole's healthcare plan when he ran for president in 1996.

In short, Republicans were for it until they were against it.



Who said we are offended by it?



What are you talking about? There are no fines for exceeding income thresholds. There are subsidies for low-income people.



Once again, Obamacare does not set the rates. Rates are set by the insurance companies under the laws of each state. If the rates are high in you state, look to the state government.

Also keep in mind that any increases that occurred in 2018 or after are the result of changes the Trump administration made to the ACA. SO if your costs went up for 2018 or later, blame Trump.




Not true.

You have obviously never read the "fine print" of obamacare have you. Why do you think the IRS is involved in it???

I urge you to sign up for it. It's the best thing since sliced bread and it will save you $2500 a yr...what's not to like!!!

[SStockDart]

We are now back to when Bob Dole ran for president? Oh, I remember back to whistle stops by "Ike".
Let's go back a little further and clarify that democrats intended to keep slavery and Republicans wanted to abolish it. Who screwed up?

[Lew Silverman]

Originally Posted by SStockDart

We are now back to when Bob Dole ran for president? Oh, I remember back to whistle stops by "Ike".
Let's go back a little further and clarify that democrats intended to keep slavery and Republicans wanted to abolish it. Who screwed up?

While you're drifting back on Memory Lane, Gary, don't forget Strom Thurmond and the "Dixiecrats" who splintered-off when the Civil Rights Act was passed. Wasn't that also about the same time George "Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorrow, Segregation Forever!" Wallace ran for President and managed to receive 13.4% of the Popular Vote?


Times (and minds) have changed.


The Democratic Party of today is no more the organization that gave us Thurmond and Wallace then the Trump (Republican) Party we now have is "still the party of Lincoln".


It's history - get over it.

[Grey Ghost]

Originally Posted by jwsamuel

Republicans should like ti too. After all, the ACA was based on a proposal by the Heritage Foundation and was the basis of Bob Dole's healthcare plan when he ran for president in 1996.

In short, Republicans were for it until they were against it.



Who said we are offended by it?



What are you talking about? There are no fines for exceeding income thresholds. There are subsidies for low-income people.



Once again, Obamacare does not set the rates. Rates are set by the insurance companies under the laws of each state. If the rates are high in you state, look to the state government.

Also keep in mind that any increases that occurred in 2018 or after are the result of changes the Trump administration made to the ACA. SO if your costs went up for 2018 or later, blame Trump.




Not true.

All you've stated is nothing more than what the democrats said when passing obummercare. "When we pass it you'll find out what's in it" says peelossie. OBVIOUSLY you haven't read any of it. At $17.2k we are getting a "good" deal compared to $23k on the exchange with no subsidy. My wife spent days researching and actually spoke with an exchange representative. WE FOUND OUT WHAT'S IN IT.

For instance (follow along if you are able).The 2019 exchange premium is based on your 2018 tax return. Should your 2019 income exceed the 2018 income you WILL have to pay the premium difference PLUS fines. FACT...would you like my brother in-laws phone #?

Take you propaganda crap to factlessbook along with your dixiecrat bs buddy.