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Old 02-02-2020, 09:27 PM   #1
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there was a car Stephen Pontiac campaigned back in the day this would have been a D1 car 69 firebird 400 car , I know the person who has it ,, any one have any pictures?
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The sad fact is hardly anyone builds their own stuff anymore. Add to this that several good "brand name" builders won't touch a real Pontiac engine.

I had a 77 Bonneville roller for sale about 7-8 years ago. Rust free Ca. car. With a 400/260, it will run N/SA where it doesn't need a roll bar...Easy 1 second under car.
I had it for sale here for about 3 months. Never got the slightest nibble. Ended up scrapping it.
Another fact is , if you can afford to play the NHRA game, most people want to do it with a 10 second car. Win or lose, you get to do a big wheelie.
Ask again, what it costs to build a low 10 second Ram Air IV car . You'll have your answer why you don't see many Pontiac anymore.
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The sad fact is hardly anyone builds their own stuff anymore. Add to this that several good "brand name" builders won't touch a real Pontiac engine.

I had a 77 Bonneville roller for sale about 7-8 years ago. Rust free Ca. car. With a 400/260, it will run N/SA where it doesn't need a roll bar...Easy 1 second under car.
I had it for sale here for about 3 months. Never got the slightest nibble. Ended up scrapping it.
Another fact is , if you can afford to play the NHRA game, most people want to do it with a 10 second car. Win or lose, you get to do a big wheelie.
Ask again, what it costs to build a low 10 second Ram Air IV car . You'll have your answer why you don't see many Pontiac anymore.
Yeah, that Bonny would work. As most Pontiac guys know, Bob Michael built a '77 Catalina. And before that a '77 Lemans, which Dave Ribeiro has now.

Bruce Noland is building a '69 Bird. Don't know what engine he'll run. He may have said & I just don't remember. I do remember that he said it has the aftermarket block. so it's a serious build. Lookin forward to seeing how it does. It's been posted that John Schloe switched over to D-ports after he messed up a RAIV head. And we all know that Scott Burton sold his '70 RAIV, and it was shipped overseas.

"...several good "brand name" builders won't touch a real Pontiac engine..."

Apparently, Parsons & Myers will. And there are obviously several others, since there are still quite a few Pontiac Stockers & Super Stockers running.

While on that subject, I'll just go ahead & ask the question to all you forum guys. Besides Parsons & Myers, what good engine builders can & will work on Pontiac Stock/SS engines ?

Pretty sure there are several well known Pontiac engine builders, who can build the shortblock.

https://www.dcimotorsports.com/servi...ngine-builder/

I'll ask around & add others that can build Pontiac Stocker engines.

This shop built a 400 engine for East Coast GT SS racer Vic Santos. His car ran real good. so, they can probably also do a Stocker engine.

http://www.bouchersracing.com/racers/

Now, when it comes to the head tricks, like acid porting or whatever they're doin to heads these days, that might require a shop that sorta specializes in that type of work. I remember reading a section on the Heads-Up site, describing their procedure. But, that section was later deleted.

https://www.headsupcylinderheads.com/services2.html

Julie Biermann drives a quick '68 Bird Stocker, built by Tim Gillespie. It has a Heads-Up decal on it. See pic below.

There are several competitive Pontiac racers gettin 'em built somewhere. Just did a real quick check of my records. I have pics of more than 50 Pontiac Stockers that have raced this century. And, most of the cars are still racing. I realize there are thousands of other brand Stockers out there. But, if there were thousands of Pontiacs, there would really be no reason for this thread. Most all the Chevy combos have been beat to death for a LONG time, & most here know all about 'em. So, probably not too many guys would wanna hear it all again.
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For engine builder Lance Line,he does the motors for Ron Prince's 'bird and Brad Koivisto's 74 GTO...gsa612
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For engine builder Lance Line,he does the motors for Ron Prince's 'bird and Brad Koivisto's 74 GTO...gsa612
Hey, that's good info !

Looks like he has a repair shop & dyno, in Wright, MN.

https://www.google.com/search?q=line...2UgaW4gbW4;mv:[[46.8333776,-92.5478318],[43.957622699999995,-93.6395369]]

I think Brad's car is the quickest '74 GTO Stocker ever. Runs low 11's.

And Ron Prince's '68 Bird runs high 10's.

There were 5 Pontiacs in the upper half of this Q-list, including Brad & Ron.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=313163
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there was a car Stephen Pontiac campaigned back in the day this would have been a D1 car 69 firebird 400 car , I know the person who has it ,, any one have any pictures?
This it ?
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This it ?
yep,, that's it thanks ! any other pictures please post
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yep,, that's it thanks ! any other pictures please post
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Just got some new info. As said, I've never before seen or heard of any 2-barrel Pontiac Stockers.

But, an eyewitness says that he remembers that Don Himes used to run a Pontiac Lemans wagon, with a 2-barrel. Said he don't remember it being a high qualifier, but quick enuff to compete. This was before Don had the GP.

I'll just take a guess that it was a '73 wagon with the 350 2-barrel. And, may have been the car that got NHRA to lower the hp factor. But, it could have had a 400 2-barrel.

Anybody else remember this car ?

Don't have any pics of it. But i did find a nice pic of a '73 wagon with a GTO front on it.
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But, an eyewitness says that he remembers that Don Himes used to run a Pontiac Lemans wagon, with a 2-barrel. Said he don't remember it being a high qualifier, but quick enuff to compete. This was before Don had the GP.

I'll just take a guess that it was a '73 wagon with the 350 2-barrel. And, may have been the car that got NHRA to lower the hp factor.
Anybody else remember this car ?

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Yes he did , but it was during the 70's pure stock era. He used to drive it around in NJ. About the same time as the Marvosh car. Before he had the white 72 wagon Stocker..
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