Best Pontiac Powered Stockers

Mike Jones · 12-20-2019, 06:03 AM

Mark,
Do you remember Don Scinto`s SS Pontiac wagon?
I heard it was a low HP 389, because of the cam
in SS cam gets changed anyway, so it was fast
Any details?
MJ

oldskool · 12-20-2019, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Jones

Mark,
Do you remember Don Scinto`s SS Pontiac wagon?
I heard it was a low HP 389, because of the cam
in SS cam gets changed anyway, so it was fast
Any details?
MJ

Here's a wagon that was a Stock record holder. Don't have any info on it. But, It was in HPP mag. So, those who have that issue could tell us more.

I'm posting another wagon on the SS Pontiac thread, that was a MANY time record holder.

Don Turk · 12-20-2019, 09:32 AM

Since I have raced Pontiacs for 40 years I love them all. One that comes to my mind is that big Pontiac Wagon I think it ran SS/O Jack Mullins. Car just happened to have Turks Auto Salvage on the lower rear Quarter. Secondly would be anything Bob Michael was racing. Presently to me Chris Stephenson's Firebird is impressive.
The first stocker that ever caught my attention was a 69 Firebird C/SA of Pete and Wolfe Flescher (?) back in the Motion Raceway Days

Cool Thread
Don

oldskool · 12-20-2019, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Turk

Since I have raced Pontiacs for 40 years I love them all. One that comes to my mind is that big Pontiac Wagon I think it ran SS/O Jack Mullins. Car just happened to have Turks Auto Salvage on the lower rear Quarter. Secondly would be anything Bob Michael was racing. Presently to me Chris Stephenson's Firebird is impressive.
The first stocker that ever caught my attention was a 69 Firebird C/SA of Pete and Wolfe Flescher (?) back in the Motion Raceway Days

Cool Thread
Don

Yeah, we talked about that Jack Mullins wagon, on the SS thread. We saw him race it, at a points race in Jackson, MS, in '75. I didn't know a Pontiac engine would wind that high, til I heard that 389 screamin. I loved watchin/listening as Jack snatched on the 4-speed. He was my 2nd Pontiac hero, after Truman Fields.

That year, he won the Sports Nats & the US Nats. At the US Nats, he beat the factory Mopar, driven by "Miss Mighty Mopar", Judy Lilly. And, your almost correct. The car had "Turk's Auto Parts" on the rear lower qrts.

I agree that Chris's Bird is awesome. And he's had a good season.

Not familiar with the '69 Bird you mentioned. I suppose the only '69 Bird Stocker I can think of that is racing now, belongs to John Schloe. There are probably others I just don't know about. The '68's have always been popular.

PS: Wish I'd had the money, when your car was up for sale. Sounded like a bargain to me. Seems i remember that the new owner won at least 1 race with it this season.

Don Turk · 12-20-2019, 01:30 PM

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PS: Wish I'd had the money, when your car was up for sale. Sounded like a bargain to me. Seems i remember that the new owner won at least 1 race with it this season.[/QUOTE]

They won Columbus in the Grand Am and had strong showing the rest of the year. I really enjoyed N/SA racing but it was time for a change and I missed sub 11 second runs still miss em wink wink

John W. 1711 · 12-20-2019, 02:32 PM

Todd Hoven had a nice GTO. He also has a brother. LOL!!

4284spd · 12-20-2019, 09:31 PM

323 by Bob Smith, on Flickr

466 by Bob Smith, on Flickr

475 by Bob Smith, on Flickr

BOP (1) by Bob Smith, on Flickr

BOP (4) by Bob Smith, on Flickr

BOP (7) by Bob Smith, on Flickr

oldskool · 12-21-2019, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Turk

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PS: Wish I'd had the money, when your car was up for sale. Sounded like a bargain to me. Seems i remember that the new owner won at least 1 race with it this season.

They won Columbus in the Grand Am and had strong showing the rest of the year. I really enjoyed N/SA racing but it was time for a change and I missed sub 11 second runs still miss em wink wink[/QUOTE]

oldskool · 12-21-2019, 02:53 AM

Since my wife raced '68 Birds, I've always liked 'em. Here's a Gillespie Bird driven by Julie Biermann.

Ronald Prince has one.

Todd Hoven has one. Todd now drives a Mopar. Duane has been driving the Bird. There's a story behind the Bird. I think Todd got it from Truman Fields, For a while he painted it up as a tribute to Truman's "Hard Times" Bird, which was the car that made Truman my first Pontiac hero. Todd has explained the whole story about the car to me. But, I may get it all messed up. So, I'll just leave it at that.

Leo Glasbrenner ran a '68. Lately, he's been racing a late model in Stock, and his 4th gen GT car in SS. Don't know if he plans on running the '68 next season, or not.

Mark Yacavone · 12-30-2019, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by oldskool

Here's a wagon that was a Stock record holder. Don't have any info on it. But, It was in HPP mag. So, those who have that issue could tell us more.

I'm posting another wagon on the SS Pontiac thread, that was a MANY time record holder.

Ron Sanders (Lumley & Sanders) Hardcore Pontiac racers

12-20-2019, 06:03 AM	#1
Mike Jones VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,125 Likes: 1,179 Liked 684 Times in 289 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers Mark, Do you remember Don Scinto`s SS Pontiac wagon? I heard it was a low HP 389, because of the cam in SS cam gets changed anyway, so it was fast Any details? MJ

12-20-2019, 09:32 AM	#3
Don Turk Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 90 Likes: 31 Liked 51 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers Since I have raced Pontiacs for 40 years I love them all. One that comes to my mind is that big Pontiac Wagon I think it ran SS/O Jack Mullins. Car just happened to have Turks Auto Salvage on the lower rear Quarter. Secondly would be anything Bob Michael was racing. Presently to me Chris Stephenson's Firebird is impressive. The first stocker that ever caught my attention was a 69 Firebird C/SA of Pete and Wolfe Flescher (?) back in the Motion Raceway Days Cool Thread Don

12-20-2019, 01:30 PM	#5
Don Turk Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 90 Likes: 31 Liked 51 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers [ PS: Wish I'd had the money, when your car was up for sale. Sounded like a bargain to me. Seems i remember that the new owner won at least 1 race with it this season.[/QUOTE] They won Columbus in the Grand Am and had strong showing the rest of the year. I really enjoyed N/SA racing but it was time for a change and I missed sub 11 second runs still miss em wink wink

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John W. 1711 Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 221 Likes: 1,599 Liked 338 Times in 108 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers Todd Hoven had a nice GTO. He also has a brother. LOL!!

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4284spd VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Longmont Colorado Posts: 1,708 Likes: 848 Liked 4,138 Times in 950 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers 323 by Bob Smith, on Flickr 466 by Bob Smith, on Flickr 475 by Bob Smith, on Flickr BOP (1) by Bob Smith, on Flickr BOP (4) by Bob Smith, on Flickr BOP (7) by Bob Smith, on Flickr __________________ Bob Smith

12-21-2019, 02:53 AM	#9
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers Since my wife raced '68 Birds, I've always liked 'em. Here's a Gillespie Bird driven by Julie Biermann. Ronald Prince has one. Todd Hoven has one. Todd now drives a Mopar. Duane has been driving the Bird. There's a story behind the Bird. I think Todd got it from Truman Fields, For a while he painted it up as a tribute to Truman's "Hard Times" Bird, which was the car that made Truman my first Pontiac hero. Todd has explained the whole story about the car to me. But, I may get it all messed up. So, I'll just leave it at that. Leo Glasbrenner ran a '68. Lately, he's been racing a late model in Stock, and his 4th gen GT car in SS. Don't know if he plans on running the '68 next season, or not. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 12-30-2019 at 12:34 PM.