Attention Nova 350/255 stock combo.

[Pistol Pete]

Originally Posted by DG7050

Open up the number of entries at national events and make it a top 64 qualified field. The ahfs will be quickly rectified.

I think by having 65 entries at every national race and take the quickest 48 cars would
work too.
You have to remember that some tracks don’t have the pit space and some tracks
have starting & finishing time curfews..

Barry Parker made some great points on people having to slow their stuff down when
it’s supposed to be a performance base class.
Maybe lowering All indexes by 2 tenths and have the trigger stay the same, racers
could run there cars all out without having to worry about getting a HP hit.

[Billy Nees]

Well, the trouble I see with just whacking the indexes is that as NHRA continues to "liberalize" the rules (through action or/and enforcement) certain combos (I'm guessing the majority) keep getting left further and further behind. If the Racers running these "good" combos don't want to keep getting hit with HP then SOMEBODY (NHRA or the Racers) should figure out a way to legitimately get HP help to combos that need it without having to request it only to get 1-2 HP at a time AND eliminate the "baggers".
I also believe that NHRA should stop with all of the different "body combos" factoring.

AAAAANNNNNDDDDD, if a Racer triggers an automatic hit OR a review, he comes apart.

[Mike Gray]

Originally Posted by DG7050

Open up the number of entries at national events and make it a top 64 qualified field. The ahfs will be quickly rectified.

I would add where class is run class winners and top qualifiers fill field, then run them off their index no breakout with ahfs.

[Jared Jordan]

Originally Posted by DG7050

Open up the number of entries at national events and make it a top 64 qualified field. The ahfs will be quickly rectified.

Literally the first post I've seen on ClassRacer on this issue that makes sense. THIS is the way to go.

For example: I didn't get into the Vegas National as a Grade 5, but if there was no quota and the Top 64 qualified for the show, you can bet the house that I'd set the car up to make sure I was one of them.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by DG7050

Open up the number of entries at national events and make it a top 64 qualified field. The ahfs will be quickly rectified.

Thanks for the dialogue, Darrin. I liked it, at first glance.

But look at it this way:
100 cars, 64% get to race.
We could tell, after the first hit, what 30 % won't be racing..Yes , a few guys can fix their DNQ's later.
Out of the 64 cars, how many can actually hit the 1.20 trigger? Maybe 6-8 % ?, but why would they? They're already in , in bracket mode.
So, maybe 2-3 % might screw up ?
I can't see where it will fix anything, in a hurry.. It'll just breed a new form of manipulation.
What it would do though, is give a few more guys who supported NHRA for 40-50 years, a chance to race again ,locally.

[DG7050]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Thanks for the dialogue, Darrin. I liked it, at first glance.

But look at it this way:
100 cars, 64% get to race.
We could tell, after the first hit, what 30 % won't be racing..Yes , a few guys can fix their DNQ's later.
Out of the 64 cars, how many can actually hit the 1.20 trigger? Maybe 6-8 % ?, but why would they? They're already in , in bracket mode.
So, maybe 2-3 % might screw up ?
I can't see where it will fix anything, in a hurry.. It'll just breed a new form of manipulation.
What it would do though, is give a few more guys who supported NHRA for 40-50 years, a chance to race again ,locally.

How many cars run 1.0 or better one race then .35 under the next week to bring down their average? They won't qualify with .35 under anymore so they go .7 under to make sure they make the field. In the end, their average will stay high, keeping the ahfs more legit. Not to mention all the cars that routinely qualify .2 under, but can run .8 under anytime they want, they will have to show what they got to qualify and the ahfs for their combination will get closer to correct.

It's not a perfect solution, but it would be better than the current system.

[James Perrone]

Originally Posted by B Parker

Sorry to bust you James but the real problem is the AHFS. It needs to be updated. It's been the same for how many years? Most at Epping had extra weight in along with no timing and heavy on the oil. I only made one time shot. Let off at the 1000ft and got on the brakes and still went 9 under. The guy next to me had that same problem. It's sad a performance Class has turned into this. Maybe our Reps could address the AHFS this winter. By the way Billy is a great guy and let off on that run. Barry

Barry the problem is the Masshole. Who runs his car like. A dumbas
On 2 redlights.
And I text him he tells me. Go work on your car. Really
Next comment is I have more power than you. Really
And you brother gets hosed by a corvette The Wrong Yesr?
And. Said Masshole. Car is a 1971.nova not a 1969.

[Tim Barrett]

Got to stick my slow dumas nose in,,,WTF does the auto factoring system really do any way??? And for the cutting tenths off the index do to??? The system doesn't work,, period as far as making anything equal amungst classes. I know,,,go spend Thousands of $$$$$ to make my car go fast so I can stand around and tell everyone,,,"I got 6 quarts of oil,120 lbs in the trunk,got 18° timing and let off at half track.. I just don't get that rule....

[Ron Ortiz]

Well some on here say "work on your stuff", others say go fast but protect your combo, some say this is performance, but hold back anyway, some run it out and then get another combo, some are struggling to hit the index, while others want to lower it, some say it is class racing but then others want the quickest 64, some have extra cash some don't, some say if you can't handle the fire get out, but then they don't want to be burned by the same comment, while others call out others, and then some complain about AHFS, then we have the "run it out the back door and suck wind", and lest we not forget that NHRA can make a car really fast (FFFFord 302) or obsolete. Isn't it fun to know that you can be whacked in all kinds of different ways. So what is the answer. Deal with it. Soon you will be old and die, or maybe young and die, or just get a headache and complain. It is racing, have fun, or don't. Silly Humans.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA. they said it would be fun

[jmcarter]

We’re rapidly approaching this thread getting nuked...suggest everyone run their combo as they see fit and let the chips fall where they may....