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Old 08-16-2018, 09:54 AM   #1
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My issue is that these "allowances" are not in the rules.




Which is why I feel that the rulebook should be sacred.




How can it be fair to allow racers to defy the rules at the expense of the guy in the other lane that is following the rules? What if the tech guys running the staging allowed a breach for one competitor but enforced a rule that they had misinterpreted for the other racer?
Nice to see that some folks have a new found appreciation for fairness. Very refreshing.
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:34 AM   #2
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Nice to see that some folks have a new found appreciation for fairness. Very refreshing.
Bruce, you are truly one of God's special people.
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:40 AM   #3
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Bruce, you are truly one of God's special people.
Oh no, not really. I'm just delighted to see that you do understand the concept of fairness after all.
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Old 08-16-2018, 12:33 PM   #4
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I respectfully think you are taking the chiller issue to far plus we are boh guilty of hi jacking this thread

I'm sorry I don't know who you are so I am not being condescending when I explain what actually happens at Indy.

If a racer is pitted a long way out he takes his chiller and his car to a friends pit spot who is closer and chills there. Then it starts clogging up as racers are on road in front of some other categories pit spot .

Nhra does not have the manpower or
I'm sure the inclination to verify whether racers are actually in there spot or not so it has evolved into people chilling in front of all the spots from back of staging lanes.

My post was that in the spirit of speeding things up( the original theme of this thread)
we should allow chilling in the staging lanes.

It really doesn't matter to me that much. I'll still chill in my auxiliary pit spot.

Great discussion. I'll give you the last word, I'm out.
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Mr Gump
I respectfully think you are taking the chiller issue to far plus we are boh guilty of hi jacking this thread

I'm sorry I don't know who you are so I am not being condescending when I explain what actually happens at Indy.

If a racer is pitted a long way out he takes his chiller and his car to a friends pit spot who is closer and chills there. Then it starts clogging up as racers are on road in front of some other categories pit spot .

Nhra does not have the manpower or
I'm sure the inclination to verify whether racers are actually in there spot or not so it has evolved into people chilling in front of all the spots from back of staging lanes.

My post was that in the spirit of speeding things up( the original theme of this thread)
we should allow chilling in the staging lanes.

It really doesn't matter to me that much. I'll still chill in my auxiliary pit spot.

Great discussion. I'll give you the last word, I'm out.
Hi,

I respectfully disagree. I have had a personal experience with this, but will add no more on open forum as you can't fix the past. I feel strongly that the rules should apply to all. My wife is pushing me hard to bring a chiller to the end of the lanes at Indy. My answer is always the same. Just because a lot of guys are doing it doesn't change the rules. Maybe I will ask the NHRA for clarification.

Gump is a nickname that I got while racing my Firebird in the nineties. My real name is Daren Poole-Adams. I am an avid fan of the new cars. I also pushed very hard for the COPO to get built. I have supported the program from day one and will continue to do so as long as I am having fun.

It is nothing new that Bruce hates the new cars. My stance has always been that they fit the rules as written.

People who have driven my COPO Camaros in NHRA competition over the last few years are Brenda Grubbs, Rodger Johnson, Robin Lawrence, AJ Currie, Emily Volkman, Larry Morgan, Chip Johnson, Steve Foley, and Jeff Warren.

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Hi,

I respectfully disagree. I have had a personal experience with this, but will add no more on open forum as you can't fix the past. I feel strongly that the rules should apply to all. My wife is pushing me hard to bring a chiller to the end of the lanes at Indy. My answer is always the same. Just because a lot of guys are doing it doesn't change the rules. Maybe I will ask the NHRA for clarification.

Gump is a nickname that I got while racing my Firebird in the nineties. My real name is Daren Poole-Adams. I am an avid fan of the new cars. I also pushed very hard for the COPO to get built. I have supported the program from day one and will continue to do so as long as I am having fun.

It is nothing new that Bruce hates the new cars. My stance has always been that they fit the rules as written.

People who have driven my COPO Camaros in NHRA competition over the last few years are Brenda Grubbs, Rodger Johnson, Robin Lawrence, AJ Currie, Emily Volkman, Larry Morgan, Chip Johnson, Steve Foley, and Jeff Warren.

Peace,

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Daren was the first guy on this forum to offer me help. Definitely one of the good ones.
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Old 08-16-2018, 09:37 PM   #7
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Mr Gump,

Indy is a special deal. 180 cars trying to qualify for the first 128.
5 days.
Increased entry fee
Twice the entries.
Many S/SS racers are pitted past the sand traps.
It is now a flat out deal, with no AHFS in place.
Sounds like a good idea to me, to allow chillers in the lanes in wagons or hand trucks..No golf carts.

Noland has got a point here. Just find the guy who allowed the COPOs , Drag Paks , and CJ's to run Stock after 60 years of tradition, and have him change just one more rule for Indy only.
What's the problem?
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