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Old 03-30-2018, 07:47 AM   #31
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I have now raced both type cars a 1985 mustang and now a 2010 cobra jet with a push rod engine .not all fs cars are blower cars if you look for a class in fs cars there are a lot of different combos to pick from just as there is in the old car combos .and if you buy a wreck or a flood car as I did it does not cost any more to build than an older combo it is the time we live in 2018 !!
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Old 03-30-2018, 09:14 AM   #32
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I think there are less than 10 front drive cars left in the country
There weren't many reasons to build FWD cars before except the affordability factor, and then they consolidated a bunch of classes. My Turismo is stuck in no man's land. For what? When discussing combining of sticks n' autos, or consolidating weight breaks in the "big car" classes, people (NHRA officials included) lose their MINDS at the thought that a car might have to add 300 pounds. Funny, my Turismo is 225# heavy for one class, but 380# light for the next. That's completely asinine, and anyone with any kind of "normal" car stuck in this situation would raise holy hell, but nobody cares because it's "just" a FWD car. Once again, a lack of consistency from NHRA.

I HAVE had a 150 mph car wreck beside me at the finish line while I was driving the Turismo. If he had lost it earlier in the run, he would have gone THROUGH me, and I'd be dead. Nothing ever happens until it does. Saying, "Oh, well, it's a dangerous sport" isn't very comforting. Personally, I choose not to race the Turismo 1/4-mile vs heavy 150+mph cars. I don't even know that a roll bar would afford much protection in such a situation. ...course then I might only have to add 340# to get to the bottom of a class...
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Old 03-30-2018, 04:10 PM   #33
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Spoken like Darth Vader, "Paul, I am your father!"
Funny, but Paul doesn’t look like you ?? We always had you pegged as Michael Beards daddy....LOL !!

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Old 03-31-2018, 08:43 AM   #34
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Man, now that's just rude! LOL
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Old 03-31-2018, 08:52 AM   #35
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M.J., I don't believe that I've EVER given you a reason to say those kind of things about me!
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M.J., I don't believe that I've EVER given you a reason to say those kind of things about me!
Spoken like YODA...........”.the mention of Darth Vader you should have not “
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Old 04-01-2018, 05:38 PM   #37
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Let's be realistic. With a few exceptions, this is bracket racing for National and regional events. Where else can you race on a budget for that kind of exposure and fun? If some guys want to spend well north of $100k on a factory hot rod for stock, let em. I agree with the comment "a round win is a round win" - I don't care who it's against.

And for context, racing a '79 Aspen wagon in O and P/SA, so know all about having the air sucked out when they pass at 140-plus mph.
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Old 04-01-2018, 05:52 PM   #38
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When I raced Pro ET Mazda back in the '80s, I would be doing 111 mph or so at the stripe, and have the occasional Super Comp type car come past me at 160 mph.

I'm not uncomfortable with speed- I've been over 200 mph on my Hayabusa Superbike. But it is the speed DIFFERENTIAL that is an issue. A 170 mph car FS/AA car ***-packing an 80 mph EF/S car in the lights, would be the same amount of energy as a car driving 90 mph into the back of a parked car.

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Old 04-01-2018, 07:44 PM   #39
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Let's be realistic. With a few exceptions, this is bracket racing for National and regional events. Where else can you race on a budget for that kind of exposure and fun? If some guys want to spend well north of $100k on a factory hot rod for stock, let em. I agree with the comment "a round win is a round win" - I don't care who it's against.

And for context, racing a '79 Aspen wagon in O and P/SA, so know all about having the air sucked out when they pass at 140-plus mph.
The factory stock cars were not meant to run in FS/AA like most are they were built to run heads up in FS/XX but there is no factory showdown events anywhere near the west coast NHRA went from 5 events to 7 events all in the mid to east coast NMCA completely abandoned the west coast so what is left for the factory cars but stock eliminator. Maybe NHRA will wake up and run it in every event next season and NMCA will come back to the west coast it is now the most popular new class but with very limited places to run and if you are in the west coast you can't race what your car was designed for. So for now stock eliminator is stuck with the new factory hot rods with all the latest equipment but so what it is just a glorified bracket race. It is not fun when a factory hot rod runs 8.50 against another car running 17.50 That's how I wound up at the AZ points meet. Would I have rather been in the factory showdown you bet.
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Old 04-07-2018, 05:30 PM   #40
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What about Al Corda his copo is in b/sa and think there is a drag pack dodge too
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