Crate Motor Class

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

There you go again being insulting and immature comments!
IHRA failed because of what I wrote.
If you took it personal that is not my problem!
What I had to say was clear!

D

I took it personal because you said "you did not support the sport". I do support the sport I just did not support IHRA. See you at the races when you get a legal combo.

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by HR9121

I took it personal because you said "you did not support the sport". I do support the sport I just did not support IHRA. See you at the races when you get a legal combo.

Dude...you took it personal..
Wow thin skinned...
If you did not support IHRA you did not support our Sport!
Thanks for validating my post.

And I have a legal IHRA Stocker and more Stock than yours.
If NHRA does not want my business I will support the programs that do!

D

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Dude...you took it personal..
Wow thin skinned...
If you did not support IHRA you did not support our Sport!
Thanks for validating my post.

And I have a legal IHRA Stocker and more Stock than yours.
If NHRA does not want my business I will support the programs that do!

D

Hey Dingbat you didn't run NHRA so you didn't support our sport. You see how stupid that sounds.
News flash IHRA doesn't run stock anymore so how can it be a legal sticker without a sanctioning body?

[Mike Schwartz]

Are there any other differences between an NHRA Stock car and a IHRA Crate Motor Stock car, other than the engine?

[Michael K]

Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz

Are there any other differences between an NHRA Stock car and a IHRA Crate Motor Stock car, other than the engine?

One difference is mini tubs and 10.5 inch tires.

[Myron Piatek]

Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz

Are there any other differences between an NHRA Stock car and a IHRA Crate Motor Stock car, other than the engine?

You're also allowed minor suspension mods for tire clearance (i.e.: 3/4" offset kit for leaf springs on Mopars.) and you can have a trunk mounted battery without a matching one up front. There were originally a few cars built with springs moved into frame rails, but they were getting away from that as too radical. They also revised other rules shortly after inception that originaly allowed other brand rear ends (i.e: Ford 9" in place of 8 3/4" - sounds like FS!) and tightened up on hood scoop rules to keeping original hole specs & sealed/unsealed configurations, like with "regular" Stock rules. They also allowed replacement aluminum radiators before NHRA did.

[James Perrone]

Good Luck to you 1/8 mile folks glad you have a program to race
But you proud crate motor and pure Stock racers better get of ClassRacer and race
Also you Proud people fail to realize that most ihra support came from us Nhra racers
If you continue to get same car counts as in the past You will have nothing again
If you get less support from the Nhra car you will have No Cars.
We get more cars at an East Coast Stock Ss race than you could get at any 2 ihra races
All Talk Will Spell Doom for you keyboard beaters. We will see.
I bet you guys fumble the ball and make excuses

[Mike Schwartz]

Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz

Are there any other differences between an NHRA Stock car and a IHRA Crate Motor Stock car, other than the engine?

Originally Posted by Michael K

One difference is mini tubs and 10.5 inch tires.

Originally Posted by Myron Piatek

You're also allowed minor suspension mods for tire clearance (i.e.: 3/4" offset kit for leaf springs on Mopars.) and you can have a trunk mounted battery without a matching one up front. There were originally a few cars built with springs moved into frame rails, but they were getting away from that as too radical. They also revised other rules shortly after inception that originaly allowed other brand rear ends (i.e: Ford 9" in place of 8 3/4" - sounds like FS!) and tightened up on hood scoop rules to keeping original hole specs & sealed/unsealed configurations, like with "regular" Stock rules. They also allowed replacement aluminum radiators before NHRA did.

Originally Posted by killintime6968

Mini tubed cars are not stock , 10.5 tire cars are not stock and crate motor cars are not stock. The first two can fit super stock and crate motors can go play in the brackets.

What % of cars, that were running Crate Motor classes recently, had taken full advantage of the rules? What % were otherwise NHRA-legal cars that just had an engine swap?

If you put a NHRA-legal 9" tire on a car that still had it's IHRA-allowed mini-tubs and relocated springs, would it have an advantage over a NHRA Stocker?

Is it correct that you can build certain NHRA-legal Stocker engines almost entirely out of aftermarket parts, aside from the intake manifold? (approved replacement block, oil pan, crankshaft, rods, pistons, heads, carburetor/EFI, & ignition, plus all the traditionally replaced components like headers, cam, valve covers, rocker arms etc.).

[Birch motor cars]

Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz

What % of cars, that were running Crate Motor classes recently, had taken full advantage of the rules? What % were otherwise NHRA-legal cars that just had an engine swap?

If you put a NHRA-legal 9" tire on a car that still had it's IHRA-allowed mini-tubs an

d relocated springs, would it have an advantage over a NHRA Stocker?

Is it correct that you can build certain NHRA-legal Stocker engines almost entirely out of aftermarket parts, aside from the intake manifold? (approved replacement block, oil pan, crankshaft, rods, pistons, heads, carburetor/EFI, & ignition, plus all the traditionally replaced components like headers, cam, valve covers, rocker arms etc.).

Mike you are 100% correct. I'm a Crate motor guy with a brand new legal crate motor sitting on my shop floor. I contacted Glendora about building a legal NHRA motor, they told me my options, so I dug into the rule book and ClassRacerInfo.com. I really had quite a laugh of what I discovered. So NHRA allows aftermarket blocks, heads, intakes just as you outlined. So what's the difference ??? So really here I sit with a legal 350ci 330hp crate motor that is more stock then what the NHRA book allows. The only thing I can come up with is all of these keyboard jockeys on here are just plain in simple SCARED of our combinations because we run faster without spending thousands of dollars to cheat, that's right some of you keyboard jockeys on here have auctally admitted to it. Therfore is the reason, they call us bracket racers or oh go back to the brackets, that's right we can go bracket race our cars because they can take it unlike the others. I'm a guy that says what Im thinking, it's real hard to read all of this hatred and hold back from responding to these scared people. My Legal Crate Motor is going in my mini tubed, 10.5" tire, holley 750cfm, Edlebrock Super Vector intake car in a few weeks and will race it's little heart out at Class Assioation races and local brackets.

[HR9121]

If you guys really want to get these cars added on a regular basis I suggest you show up and support these Open races. Rich and Division 2 have given you guys an opportunity to show there is a need. If I were in your position I would be rallying my fellow CM racers and preparing to go support these races instead of coming on here trying to pick a fight and calling people cheaters.