Important if you run D-H/S or SA

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Tom keedle

gee, sounds similar to the amc group 19 fiasco

And what do both these clusters have in common......you guessed it.....Pat Cevengros.....

[Billy Nees]

M.J., what always amazes me is how the NHRA Tech Dept. can constantly make mistakes, be shown with positive proof that have made a mistake and then deny or ignore the fact that they've made a mistake. Now I understand that they can't be an expert on each and every subject but there are Racers (dues-paying members, I might add) out there that are and they are ignored. Maybe it's time to start petitioning and protesting to insist that the SRAC have more of a say and maybe even veto powers over Glendora. It just keeps stinking more and more of buddy deals.

[David Lee]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

and that manifold DIDN'T come on that engine. Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, again, what's your point?

neither did any combo that got a stronger block,

[Billy Nees]

David, I'm missing your point about a stronger block. What does that have to do with aluminum intakes and heads? Do you mean that certain Stock combos get to use aftermarket blocks? If you do, there are just as many Mopar combos that can use aftermarket blocks as GM and FFFord and I actually agree with them being available. There would be a whole lot less Hemi cars out there without them.
Just FYI, if you hear of any approved aftermarket blocks for a Pontiac 301 or a Chevy inline 6, please let me know.

[Tom keedle]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

David, I'm missing your point about a stronger block. What does that have to do with aluminum intakes and heads? Do you mean that certain Stock combos get to use aftermarket blocks? If you do, there are just as many Mopar combos that can use aftermarket blocks as GM and FFFord and I actually agree with them being available. There would be a whole lot less Hemi cars out there without them.
Just FYI, if you hear of any approved aftermarket blocks for a Pontiac 301 or a Chevy inline 6, please let me know.

that should mean AMC could use an indy block?

[Paul Precht]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

David, I'm missing your point about a stronger block. What does that have to do with aluminum intakes and heads? Do you mean that certain Stock combos get to use aftermarket blocks? If you do, there are just as many Mopar combos that can use aftermarket blocks as GM and FFFord and I actually agree with them being available. There would be a whole lot less Hemi cars out there without them.
Just FYI, if you hear of any approved aftermarket blocks for a Pontiac 301 or a Chevy inline 6, please let me know.

Hi Billy, there are many discussions on the Mopar forums of guys that have paid 4 to 5K and waited 3-4 years for an aftermarket block. Every few years another company makes a small amount of them then they stop, most of them aren't legal for stock anyway. The GMs and Fords benefit from them greatly as far as adding more power and the Chevy guys can buy them all day long for half of what it cost to get on the 3 year waiting list for a Chrysler block that they may never get.

[David Lee]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

David, I'm missing your point about a stronger block. What does that have to do with aluminum intakes and heads? Do you mean that certain Stock combos get to use aftermarket blocks? If you do, there are just as many Mopar combos that can use aftermarket blocks as GM and FFFord and I actually agree with them being available. There would be a whole lot less Hemi cars out there without them.
Just FYI, if you hear of any approved aftermarket blocks for a Pontiac 301 or a Chevy inline 6, please let me know.

Its about having a level playing field, you bitch so much about two manifolds , it makes you look like Don Quixote. And again, you seem to see the forest through the trees. How many combos can't get aftermarket blocks?

And you not finding a manifold or block, it is not my problem

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by David Lee

And you not finding a manifold or block, it is not my problem

David, THAT'S my point exactly! Why did NHRA approve an "aftermarket" aluminum intake for a 273 or a 340 just because the original is getting hard to find! It's not MY problem! If you can't find the correct parts then don't build the combo!
Why did NHRA approve replacement "aftermarket" aluminum cylinder head for ANYTHING just because the original is getting hard to find! It's not MY problem!
The fact that you are either too cheap or too lazy to find and buy the right parts is not MY problem! Either buy a new Drag Pack or build a Slant 6!
This stuff becomes MY problem when someone in Glendora who doesn't know the repercussions of what he is doing gets involved in playing god and I have to race against the results!
And don't try and give me the "but you don't have to race against it" crap, if I've got to qualify against it then I've got to race against it. Now it's MY problem!

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Paul Precht

Hi Billy, there are many discussions on the Mopar forums of guys that have paid 4 to 5K and waited 3-4 years for an aftermarket block. Every few years another company makes a small amount of them then they stop, most of them aren't legal for stock anyway. The GMs and Fords benefit from them greatly as far as adding more power and the Chevy guys can buy them all day long for half of what it cost to get on the 3 year waiting list for a Chrysler block that they may never get.

Hi Paul, You're right, I've heard the horror stories but to quote David Lee, "it is not my problem".

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

M.J., what always amazes me is how the NHRA Tech Dept. can constantly make mistakes, be shown with positive proof that have made a mistake and then deny or ignore the fact that they've made a mistake. Now I understand that they can't be an expert on each and every subject but there are Racers (dues-paying members, I might add) out there that are and they are ignored. Maybe it's time to start petitioning and protesting to insist that the SRAC have more of a say and maybe even veto powers over Glendora. It just keeps stinking more and more of buddy deals.

I sure hope I see you this weekend.......