Crate Motor Class - Page 24

PozQB14 · 07-05-2017, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

The crate motors being discussed are for the new OEM motors which would necessitate new classes. They appear to have no interest in any of the current IHRA style crate motors classes. Just more toys for the OEMs.

Bruce can you elaborate? What new OEM crate motors are available? I know that IHRA and maybe NHRA (not sure) created a factory GT class for SS that uses the new factory motors in older cars.

FLEMING · 07-06-2017, 10:44 AM

I am so thankfull these types of posts pop up every so often to remind me not to jump off the deep end and go stocker racing like I have always wanted..lol

Dan Fahey · 07-06-2017, 11:51 AM

Think Crate Motor Class needs a bit of rethinking.
It was a smart evolution for Stock.

In fact wrote an article promoting Crate Motors in Super Stock Drag Illustrated, August 1993 edition.

My opinion but do not like tunnel rams, or any carb or intake on a Crate Motor.
That took it too far but is what it is.

US big 3 plus America Motors made factory replacement engines.
Even creating a few for the performance market.
Idea was to get updated engines out there replacing the well worn versions, some with hard to get pieces.

It added a little diversity to the Stock Eliminator concept.
Interesting that you can put a SBC in a Vega or SBF in Pinto.
Now that would make a good heads up race.

D

07-06-2017, 11:55 AM

Delete.

07-06-2017, 11:57 AM

I've never raced any IHRA events, I hope to once to twice in the future.
My guess is that an IHRA compeditor builds a crate car to bracket race and class race on a budget. If it ever gets implemented in NHRA it will only be a short time before the budget gets raised significantly. A guy who has money and desires to run fast will turn one of these into a max effort deal and spend nearly as much money in the crate engine as he does in a traditional stock class engine. Then the budget guy will be far back and still racing IHRA mostly and out classed performance wise buy guys that lived to work on their cars and to go fast for a lifetime.

I'd dump all my Pontiac stuff right in the nearest river in a second, if we could put any engine in our cars. The NHRA laughs at me when I'm looking for a replacement cylinder head for my combo that is 40 years old and very hard to find specific parts. Be nice to buy new stuff and cut it up to to fast.

My guess is we are at the end of Stock as we know it. Soon the heads up will be eliminated along with all tech. Then all of this will be a mute point. Then I'll race bracket 2 much closer to home and on a budget. Or just stop all together and save some money for something better.

Bob Mulry · 07-06-2017, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

I've never raced any IHRA events, I hope to once to twice in the future.
My guess is that an IHRA compeditor builds a crate car to bracket race and class race on a budget. If it ever gets implemented in NHRA it will only be a short time before the budget gets raised significantly. A guy who has money and desires to run fast will turn one of these into a max effort deal and spend nearly as much money in the crate engine as he does in a traditional stock class engine. Then the budget guy will be far back and still racing IHRA mostly and out classed performance wise buy guys that lived to work on their cars and to go fast for a lifetime.

I'd dump all my Pontiac stuff right in the nearest river in a second, if we could put any engine in our cars. The NHRA laughs at me when I'm looking for a replacement cylinder head for my combo that is 40 years old and very hard to find specific parts. Be nice to buy new stuff and cut it up to to fast.

My guess is we are at the end of Stock as we know it. Soon the heads up will be eliminated along with all tech. Then all of this will be a mute point. Then I'll race bracket 2 much closer to home and on a budget. Or just stop all together and save some money for something better.

You're Right...........

NO class.....

NO heads up.....

NO tech......

NO records.....

NO tear downs.....

NO rules......

NO performance....

NO reason to race.........

Joey Bohannon · 07-06-2017, 04:04 PM

Get over it folks, 97% of the time we are all bracket racers.

07-06-2017, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey Bohannon

Get over it folks, 97% of the time we are all bracket racers.

Your point?

Dan Fahey · 07-07-2017, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey Bohannon

Get over it folks, 97% of the time we are all bracket racers.

Big Difference

We have to build a car that requires thinking and tuning the whole
Vehicle to qualify.
Then built a competitive car to be consistent and reliable.
Just cannot throw stuff together.

What is cool about stock are the odd combinations.
A U/SA Ford is in the 12's today. In the 80's that was O/SA territory.
Stock thrives because of racers figuring out how to make thier ride fast.
With what it came with under the hood.

Aside that we are handicapped by class.
That is the only similarity to Racket Racing.
D

Jeff Niceswanger · 07-07-2017, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey Bohannon

Get over it folks, 97% of the time we are all bracket racers.

And the other 3 % is why 97 % of us race this class in the first place .....

07-06-2017, 10:44 AM	#232
FLEMING Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 262 Likes: 47 Liked 54 Times in 25 Posts	Re: Crate Motor Class I am so thankfull these types of posts pop up every so often to remind me not to jump off the deep end and go stocker racing like I have always wanted..lol Last edited by FLEMING; 07-06-2017 at 10:59 AM.

07-06-2017, 11:51 AM	#233
Dan Fahey VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,128 Likes: 1,084 Liked 184 Times in 113 Posts	Re: Crate Motor Class Think Crate Motor Class needs a bit of rethinking. It was a smart evolution for Stock. In fact wrote an article promoting Crate Motors in Super Stock Drag Illustrated, August 1993 edition. My opinion but do not like tunnel rams, or any carb or intake on a Crate Motor. That took it too far but is what it is. US big 3 plus America Motors made factory replacement engines. Even creating a few for the performance market. Idea was to get updated engines out there replacing the well worn versions, some with hard to get pieces. It added a little diversity to the Stock Eliminator concept. Interesting that you can put a SBC in a Vega or SBF in Pinto. Now that would make a good heads up race. D

07-06-2017, 11:55 AM	#234
Todd Hoven Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Crate Motor Class Delete. Last edited by Todd Hoven; 07-06-2017 at 11:58 AM.

07-06-2017, 11:57 AM	#235
Todd Hoven Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Crate Motor Class I've never raced any IHRA events, I hope to once to twice in the future. My guess is that an IHRA compeditor builds a crate car to bracket race and class race on a budget. If it ever gets implemented in NHRA it will only be a short time before the budget gets raised significantly. A guy who has money and desires to run fast will turn one of these into a max effort deal and spend nearly as much money in the crate engine as he does in a traditional stock class engine. Then the budget guy will be far back and still racing IHRA mostly and out classed performance wise buy guys that lived to work on their cars and to go fast for a lifetime. I'd dump all my Pontiac stuff right in the nearest river in a second, if we could put any engine in our cars. The NHRA laughs at me when I'm looking for a replacement cylinder head for my combo that is 40 years old and very hard to find specific parts. Be nice to buy new stuff and cut it up to to fast. My guess is we are at the end of Stock as we know it. Soon the heads up will be eliminated along with all tech. Then all of this will be a mute point. Then I'll race bracket 2 much closer to home and on a budget. Or just stop all together and save some money for something better.

07-06-2017, 04:04 PM	#237
Joey Bohannon Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 102 Likes: 1 Liked 61 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Crate Motor Class Get over it folks, 97% of the time we are all bracket racers.