Hardblock?

Tony Goodman · 06-08-2017, 04:51 AM

I believe a Dart SHP block is less than $2000. There is also the money you will spend on the stock block you will not have to spend on the after market block. Filling, cleaning, checking... So that cost can be deducted off the price of an after market block also.

Monte Howard · 06-08-2017, 05:58 PM

Save yourself the aggravation, I hard blocked my 010 block and went .060. With new cp pistons. After the 1st pass the car slowed down. Made about 20 more runs on it. Tore it apart this winter and the cylinders where .008 out of round. And my new pistons skirts where scuffed really bad. Do yourself a favor and just get a SHP block and be done with it.

carl hinkson · 06-08-2017, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Monte Howard

Save yourself the aggravation, I hard blocked my 010 block and went .060. With new cp pistons. After the 1st pass the car slowed down. Made about 20 more runs on it. Tore it apart this winter and the cylinders where .008 out of round. And my new pistons skirts where scuffed really bad. Do yourself a favor and just get a SHP block and be done with it.

Best advise ever !!!!!!

I was going to post that as I have seen what you observed with your build but most think I post that to sell new blocks.

randy wilson · 06-09-2017, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Monte Howard

Save yourself the aggravation, I hard blocked my 010 block and went .060. With new cp pistons. After the 1st pass the car slowed down. Made about 20 more runs on it. Tore it apart this winter and the cylinders where .008 out of round. And my new pistons skirts where scuffed really bad. Do yourself a favor and just get a SHP block and be done with it.

This guy found the same thing I found out.

SSDiv6 · 06-09-2017, 01:00 PM

If you want the best, use MasterFlow 885, formerly known as Embeco 885.

MasterFlow 885 has a metallic aggregate, it is non-shrinking and way stronger than HardBlock or the Moroso product after cured.

carl hinkson · 06-09-2017, 05:29 PM

My rule of thumb if you have to fill the block your using the wrong block,

Cylinders change during heat cycles and and never come back to the original machined size.

David Lee · 06-09-2017, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by carl hinkson

My rule of thumb if you have to fill the block your using the wrong block,

Cylinders change during heat cycles and and never come back to the original machined size.

So every combo that can not get an aftermarket block should just stop building engines. That is what you are basically saying

Jim Hanig · 06-09-2017, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by David Lee

So every combo that can not get an aftermarket block should just stop building engines. That is what you are basically saying

Which engine wòuld that be?

carl hinkson · 06-10-2017, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by David Lee

So every combo that can not get an aftermarket block should just stop building engines. That is what you are basically saying

Sounds like your being a dick head LOL

I build a lot of engines with OEM blocks and no problems to date.

95% of my circle track engines I have built for the last 40 years have been OEM block.

Now I am sure you will find something else to cry about LOL

Mark Yacavone · 06-11-2017, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by carl hinkson

My rule of thumb if you have to fill the block your using the wrong block,

Cylinders change during heat cycles and and never come back to the original machined size.

Carl , I think David's point should be well taken.
You're not using the wrong block, if there is no replacement available.
The last block that I filled , did not have a replacement.
After several no. 1 qualifiers and a Nat'l record, it never dawned on me that I was using the wrong block.
Perhaps you should have qualified that statement at the outset. Just sayin' .

06-08-2017, 04:51 AM	#1
Tony Goodman Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Zeeland, MI Posts: 98 Likes: 135 Liked 18 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Hardblock? I believe a Dart SHP block is less than $2000. There is also the money you will spend on the stock block you will not have to spend on the after market block. Filling, cleaning, checking... So that cost can be deducted off the price of an after market block also.

06-08-2017, 05:58 PM	#2
Monte Howard Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Potomac,IL Posts: 279 Likes: 1 Liked 71 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Hardblock? Save yourself the aggravation, I hard blocked my 010 block and went .060. With new cp pistons. After the 1st pass the car slowed down. Made about 20 more runs on it. Tore it apart this winter and the cylinders where .008 out of round. And my new pistons skirts where scuffed really bad. Do yourself a favor and just get a SHP block and be done with it. __________________ Monte Howard 3209 STK, 3208 SS

06-09-2017, 01:00 PM	#5
SSDiv6 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 3,044 Likes: 712 Liked 1,583 Times in 582 Posts	Re: Hardblock? If you want the best, use MasterFlow 885, formerly known as Embeco 885. MasterFlow 885 has a metallic aggregate, it is non-shrinking and way stronger than HardBlock or the Moroso product after cured.

06-09-2017, 05:29 PM	#6
carl hinkson Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NORTHEAST Posts: 287 Likes: 1 Liked 18 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Hardblock? My rule of thumb if you have to fill the block your using the wrong block, Cylinders change during heat cycles and and never come back to the original machined size.