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Old 03-09-2017, 11:53 PM   #1
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Adj. 1. sellable - fit to be offered for sale; "marketable produce" merchantable, vendable, vendible, marketable. salable, saleable - capable of being sold; fit for sale; "saleable at a low price"

Here's your thread for this subject.

Okay. I'll go first.
Make Ed F. marketing director..j/k

Seriously now , folks

I've noticed that whenever a slower FWD car gets a huge head start, half the fans (however many are there) will root for the tortoise, and the other half, for the hare.

However, watching them time trial at the same time is b-o-o-o-ring!
This is not a new idea.I wish I could give credit to however thought it up and posted it years ago, but anyway, why not use the indexes and stagger the tree accordingly?
Both drivers would get more practice this way. It doesn't take any longer to get both cars down the track and onto the return road, plus, it would much more watchable.
What is the down side , cuz I sure don't see it?
The only down side I see is that currently in time trials, if the fast car loses it at the stripe the slow car just sits back and watches, instead of being up to his eyeballs in it.

Of course, there's less motivation to stomp on the brakes I presume, so the chances aren't as high.

Despite that, the more I think about it, the more I like it.

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Old 03-10-2017, 12:50 AM   #2
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This needs to happen!!!! Makes total sense. Does anyone know why Div 4 stopped this? Comp would benefit from this also.
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Old 03-10-2017, 12:51 AM   #3
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We used to do it in the CCRA using dial-ins and it was great. I always thought using the indexes / handicap start in qualifying would really be great for the drivers and fans. Any thoughts on allowing dial-ins during qualifying? NHRA and IHRA u listening?
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Old 01-08-2019, 02:51 PM   #4
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We used to do it in the CCRA using dial-ins and it was great. I always thought using the indexes / handicap start in qualifying would really be great for the drivers and fans. Any thoughts on allowing dial-ins during qualifying? NHRA and IHRA u listening?
IHRA is DEAD and was dying in 2017 when you posted this.

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Old 01-08-2019, 07:37 PM   #5
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Completely forgot about this thread, shocked to see my own post!! (CRS)
I looked at NHRA.com today, before I saw this thread.
All I found was a generic contact page to leave a message.
Does Kevin McDonaugh (spelling) still work for them?
He used to come on here. Might be able to give guidance.
I`ll see If I still have or can find it.
MJ

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Old 01-08-2019, 08:42 PM   #6
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I still don't see the down side here.
Qualifying is done of the index anyway, which is automatically entered from the tech cards. It seems like a simple software change to stagger the start.
The pair takes the same amount of time to run and then clear the track..that being the ET of the slower car.
Am I missing something?
Has anyone asked a DD why they haven't tried it?

Markie, because the idiots in Glendora and the Div. offices dont give a rats ***. Also (for the 2 millionth tie) the fan base isn't what it used to be.
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I still don't see the down side here.
Qualifying is done of the index anyway, which is automatically entered from the tech cards. It seems like a simple software change to stagger the start.
The pair takes the same amount of time to run and then clear the track..that being the ET of the slower car.
Am I missing something?
Has anyone asked a DD why they haven't tried it?

Markie, because the idiots in Glendora and the Div. offices dont give a rats ***. Also (for the 2 millionth tie) the fan base isn't what it used to be.
Eddie, It doesn't matter whether the "idiots in Glendora" want to do it at Natl. Events or not. This is going to have to get it's start by being tried at Divisionals and N.O.s and at S/SS Races. It just takes one interested Track Owner to give it a try. If it works as well as we think that it should, then NHRA will be all over it claiming it as their own. (ya know, THEY invent everything!)
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Old 01-08-2019, 12:04 PM   #8
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The only down side I see is that currently in time trials, if the fast car loses it at the stripe the slow car just sits back and watches, instead of being up to his eyeballs in it.

Of course, there's less motivation to stomp on the brakes I presume, so the chances aren't as high.

Despite that, the more I think about it, the more I like it.
Dave, Yes there's that possibility in every round of eliminations too.

I still don't see the down side here.
Qualifying is done of the index anyway, which is automatically entered from the tech cards. It seems like a simple software change to stagger the start.
The pair takes the same amount of time to run and then clear the track..that being the ET of the slower car.
Am I missing something?
Has anyone asked a DD why they haven't tried it?
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Dave, Yes there's that possibility in every round of eliminations too.

I still don't see the down side here.
Qualifying is done of the index anyway, which is automatically entered from the tech cards. It seems like a simple software change to stagger the start.
The pair takes the same amount of time to run and then clear the track..that being the ET of the slower car.
Am I missing something?
Has anyone asked a DD why they haven't tried it?
No down side Mark!
Unless someone considers more attendance watching Stock/Super Stock qualifying an issue. Since the indexes are already in the software it would be a simple update.
As mentioned there is NO increase in time, we still can't run the next pair until the slower car gets off the track.
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