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Old 12-20-2007, 07:04 PM   #1
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This is the proposel that I sent, to the Tech. Dept. of NHRA! Gentelmen, I would like to suggest a "rule change" pertaining to the 55-57 Chevy Super Stock Stick Cars. The Change in which I am asking is the following. That you allow the handful of these cars to be allowed to run a Four Speed Transmission instead of a Three Speed Transmission. I feel that the 3 speed is at a disadvantage when trying to compete with other COMBOS with 4 Speeds.I have talked to others,(East Coast to the West Coast) and we are all in agreement,that if the rule could be changed, this would make these cars more competitive.I think,that a lot of people would like to see these cars in competition.For a long time to come. I remember a few years back ESPN2 showed a 55 Super Stocker(Gary Howe)as a feature at a National Race. Don't remember which one! Looks like ESPN2 thought these cars have eye appeal as well. I have noticed the 2008 rule change, that the THREE SPEED Automatic is allowed to be used over the 2 Speeds.
I have a 56 150 Sedan im considering to build for N,M Stick Class.I would be more comfortable about doing this , knowing that I would be to compete with a 4 Speed. Thanks for your time and consideration Tom Dorsey Member #406383

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Old 12-20-2007, 10:52 PM   #2
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This is the proposel that I sent, to the Tech. Dept. of NHRA! Gentelmen, I would like to suggest a "rule change" pertaining to the 55-57 Chevy Super Stock Stick Cars. The Change in which I am asking is the following. That you allow the handful of these cars to be allowed to run a Four Speed Transmission instead of a Three Speed Transmission. I feel that the 3 speed is at a disadvantage when trying to compete with other COMBOS with 4 Speeds.I have talked to others,(East Coast to the West Coast) and we are all in agreement,that if the rule could be changed, this would make these cars more competitive.I think,that a lot of people would like to see these cars in competition.For a long time to come. I remember a few years back ESPN2 showed a 55 Super Stocker(Gary Howe)as a feature at a National Race. Don't remember which one! Looks like ESPN2 thought these cars have eye appeal as well. I have noticed the 2008 rule change, that the THREE SPEED Automatic is allowed to be used over the 2 Speeds.
I have a 56 150 Sedan im considering to build for N,M Stick Class.I would be more comfortable about doing this , knowing that I would be to compete with a 4 Speed. Thanks for your time and consideration Tom Dorsey Member #406383
Your car didn't come with a 4 speed.Why should you be allowed to put one in?Don't like the glide issue?Spend some energy letting NHRA know your feelings,instead of adding to the cluster &?#* that they've created already.

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Old 12-20-2007, 11:13 PM   #3
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Why don't you guys write a letter that says that 55-56 Chevrolet Superstockers should be able to run a 150 horsepower Nitrous kit?
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I would think that would help a little more than an extra gear.
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Old 12-20-2007, 11:23 PM   #4
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Default Re: 4 speeds for 55-56 chevrolet superstockers

"I remember a letter-to-the-editor of National DRAGSTER from the wife of the driver/builder of "BIG DADDY": (not Garlits), a '60 Buick convertible G/SA Stocker from Lafayette, Indiana (Russ Matthews) who announced that her elderly husband was giving up trying to compete with these "fantasy cars" that were never built by the factory. He'd been a national record holder for years with his 401/nailhead/Dynaflow Buick, but the sedan deliveries made his car uncompetitive. So, he was quitting. She just wanted everyone to know "


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Looks like Big Daddy missed the boat back then .GM already had an early TH 400 that would bolt right up to the Buick Nailhead motor. All he had to do was call 1 800 - CRY- NHRA and ask for it. You know, in the interest of fairness.
Oh wait, that line wasn't in use back then . Well, maybe Farmer would have changed it for him . What do you think ,guys?
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Old 12-20-2007, 11:37 PM   #5
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Farmer's comment to such a request wouldn't be anything printable here (this is a "family" forum.)

But, that was then; this is now...
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Old 12-20-2007, 11:57 PM   #6
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I'm Gonna send this as well LOL




This is the proposel that I sent, to the Tech. Dept. of NHRA! Gentelmen, I would like to suggest a "rule change" pertaining to the 64~73 Ford Super Stock Stick Cars. The Change in which I am asking is the following. That you allow the handful of these cars to be allowed to run a Five Speed Transmission instead of a Four Speed Transmission. I feel that the 4 speed is at a disadvantage when trying to compete with other COMBOS with 5 Speeds.I have talked to others,(East Coast to the West Coast) and we are all in agreement,that if the rule could be changed, this would make these cars more competitive.I think,that a lot of people would like to see these cars in competition.For a long time to come. I remember a few years back ESPN2 showed a 69 Super Stocker(Red LeBlanc)as a feature at a National Race. Don't remember which one! Looks like ESPN2 thought these cars have eye appeal as well. I have noticed the 2008 rule change, that the THREE SPEED Automatic is allowed to be used over the 2 Speeds.
I have a 64 Sedan im considering to build for L,M Stick Class.I would be more comfortable about doing this , knowing that I would be to compete with a 5 Speed. Thanks for your time and consideration,
Mark Tallent 7724 SS/L


WOW Where does this come from?
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Old 12-21-2007, 12:35 PM   #7
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In 2007, I sent a letter to tech asking that corporate automatic transmissions be allowed in cars that specify a manual transmission; Viper, ZO6, Z28 and others in that catagory in Super Stock. As noted by this esteemed board or onlookers, only the powergilde got some change. I thought the 4 speed in the 55/56 was also in front of the committee, but as noted in earlier posts, I have been wrong before. Anyone have any idea who asked for the help on the glides? Want to bet they are from the West Coast!! But I do understand that my request was not granted, however, a short reply would have been appreciated. Years ago we had one of them 4 speed autos. My children are all younger that that trans. How about the 4 speed Torqueflite that came in the 75-78 D500-D800 Dodge. I really don't know if even Pro Trans could put 904 guts in that thing. I'm gettin too old for this.
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Old 12-21-2007, 01:39 PM   #8
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Mark I think the 16 HP reduction on the 352 FE is a better gift than a Five Speed. Still have not seen this combo on the track since the early eighties
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Old 12-22-2007, 12:06 AM   #9
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I believe that Myron and others that run this combination of a 3spd, under the current updated rules, should be allowed to run a 4spd trans. If I understand this right NHRA said that they have received letters requesting this for some time and I was told by NHRA that they observed a difference between a powerglide car and a turbo car in the same class!!! DUH... My father and I run the 3spd 56 combination and we believe that IF NHRA does continue to go through with this rulling that we to deserve the same "level playing field", that other combinations currently run in the lower classes. I would be completely happy with NHRA leaving everything as it was supposed to be, the correct transmission for the combination claimed. Yes, I do aggree that if this continues then it will continue to dissolve the basis of S/SS racing. It goes to show that all of the recent rule changes have done nothing but increase the cost of being competative and lower NHRA's responsibility to enforce rules. Choose ypur combination and let the HP's eventually work its way out.
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Old 12-22-2007, 12:27 PM   #10
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Tony, there is a 63 352 running L & M in Div 1
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