Lookin for NHRA Stock Class ET/MPH from 1970-71

[Rich Biebel]

Originally Posted by DeuceCoupe

Thankx=
I was able to read the A/SA-O/SA page ok but not the deleted one

If you have a smart phone I can send you the record sheet I have by text message...

I had no luck trying to upload the page on here.

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

If you have a smart phone I can send you the record sheet I have by text message...

I had no luck trying to upload the page on here.

PM sent!
thanks

[Bernie Cunningham]

That's funny too, I don't hang out at all on the Ford boards, I did it once to find out how to get rid of my pesky POS '06 dually and Ford bought it back from me, thx.

There's a mention of a Gongulator from an American Sitcom from back in the '70's that I watched while back in the old country as a teenager, I'll never forgot that reference and I still use it today!

Without research, who else remembers the show?

[Rich Biebel]

Hogan's Heros was a very funny show. Watched it many times. It was from the mid to late 1960's. We used to watch it at the guys house who got me and my buddy involved in Drag Racing ....
Sundays sometimes after a day of racing at Island Dragway.....
His mother made us something to eat and we watched the show.

I am sure you can find it on TV now as there are channels that play nothing but old shows...

Schulz.....Klink....Hogan....and numerous others...

Schulz had all the best lines with his heavy German Accent...

"Hogan....Where is the streudel??? You promised!"

" I see nothing!!!!"

[DeuceCoupe]

That's the one, Hogan's Heroes, and I still remember the Gonkulator episode. So Ross on FordFE.com named my computer program the Gonkulator, WerbyFord got added, the rest is history mainly on that site but some others too, inliners, StevesNova, etc.


I just started Gonkulating all the early NHRA history, 1950s-1971.
Hard to find comprehensive real et/mph so I am compiling a list from books, web, etc. Graphing them is very revealing.


Rich just sent me a list of the 1970 record holders, only 3 1970 cars in there, I am guessing the car/engine since they just list the make:
H/S GTO 400/350 112.55mph
F/SA Cutlass W30 12.23et
G/SA RoadRunner 383/335 12.40et

[Dwight Southerland]

I have Classification Guides for that era. Since that was before the days of factoring and weight adjustment, the body-engine combinations could be narrowed down, if you would be interested. The 1957 Chevrolet Q/S would be a 265-162hp, not a 283. Technically, the 283-185hp engine was for automatic transmission only, though that was blurred from the beginning.

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

I have Classification Guides for that era. Since that was before the days of factoring and weight adjustment, the body-engine combinations could be narrowed down, if you would be interested. The 1957 Chevrolet Q/S would be a 265-162hp, not a 283. Technically, the 283-185hp engine was for automatic transmission only, though that was blurred from the beginning.

Very much interested. I have the Rule Books from 1958-1968 (but not 1969-71) but the only Classification Guides I have are the current ones on line. There are good to get weights, but still a big spread eg 57 Chev from lightest to heaviest. So just knowing its a 57 Chev doesn't mean much. And of course 68 Chev could mean big car, Chevelle, Camaro.


For example, in the sheet Rich B already posted it lists Kost's W30 in F/SA. NHRA says 3720lb for the 442 W30 and 3720/370 puts it in G/SA in 1970. So I figure, well maybe it was a plain Cutlass at 3607lb which works for F/SA. If I didn't guess at some stuff I wouldn't get very far.


I think they were factoring some stuff by 1968-1970 eg Ford's 428cj got factored right away to 360hp - different for ramair and non-ramair too. But they hadn't gone factor-crazy yet.


I could sure use that Classification Guide info but not sure how to get it from you, that's a lot of info unless its in a PDF you could Email.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

I have Classification Guides for that era. Since that was before the days of factoring and weight adjustment, the body-engine combinations could be narrowed down, if you would be interested. The 1957 Chevrolet Q/S would be a 265-162hp, not a 283. Technically, the 283-185hp engine was for automatic transmission only, though that was blurred from the beginning.

I had one of those, finally fell apart.

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by DeuceCoupe

That's the one, Hogan's Heroes, and I still remember the Gonkulator episode. So Ross on FordFE.com named my computer program the Gonkulator, WerbyFord got added, the rest is history mainly on that site but some others too, inliners, StevesNova, etc.


I just started Gonkulating all the early NHRA history, 1950s-1971.
Hard to find comprehensive real et/mph so I am compiling a list from books, web, etc. Graphing them is very revealing.


Rich just sent me a list of the 1970 record holders, only 3 1970 cars in there, I am guessing the car/engine since they just list the make:
H/S GTO 400/350 112.55mph
F/SA Cutlass W30 12.23et
G/SA RoadRunner 383/335 12.40et

Here is what Rich sent if I can get attachments to work.

[Dwight Southerland]

I believe the CobraJet factoring was in super stock classes. Red Anderson once told me that the first stock factor was on the 255hp 350. The super stock classes from 1967 through early 1970s were the hotbed of factoring. When Stock was reintroduced in 1972, the SS factors were carried over to them. I know that the 396-375 Camaros carried a factor of 415 until 1981 from the efforts of Wally Booth, Bill Jenkins and others who raced them in SS.