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Old 01-02-2016, 12:00 PM   #1
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In my experience - NHRA has never replied to receiving or granting Horsepower requests. The first year I requested reduction I waited for the Dec. list and - Nothing? No indication! When I called to check they said it must have been lost? Resubmit for next year. I did and in July again - Nothing. After calling again I received a call from Wesley - and he said they screwed up. He said they would look into it and 2 hours later returned my call and discussed my combination and gave me 15 HP off.
He was very helpful but I understand he no longer has that position?
i sent a request in this year by email and Pat sent me a confirmation email that they received it.
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Old 01-02-2016, 04:18 PM   #2
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i sent a request in this year by email and Pat sent me a confirmation email that they received it.

I sent mine in the Thursday after the World Finals and Pat promptly returned my e-mail stating I had missed the deadline by 2 days.
That was a lesson learned for me.
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Old 01-02-2016, 06:43 PM   #3
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.85 is the figure for average, two times 1.00 is what gets trouble if the average is more than .849 under up to 1.19.
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Old 01-02-2016, 08:05 PM   #4
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All the data the NHRA needs is right at their fingertips. Always has been, always will be. They have the variable in temperature, wind, altitude, pressure, etc. But they also have all the incremental times. Those little increments tell the story of what happened during the run. They can be easily deciphered. And you all thought that letting off was hiding something.

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Old 01-03-2016, 10:10 AM   #5
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Mineshaft is only about final order. S/S could be mineshaft at a race and Stock not be mineshaft at the same race. Weather has nothing to do with it. As we found out at Indy 3500' can be mineshaft if the right mix of cars are entered.


Indy was 150 cars trying to fill 98 spots, that's why Indy is always show and tell. "Ain't nothing like it" he said with a smile. The math looks wrong until the F/X cars are inserted, after the F/X cars are inserted in the field, all of us in the eliminator need a big kiss.


F/X cars and mineshaft.
70 cars in qualified field, 20 F/X cars in field of 70. The F/X cars are subtracted from the field 70 leaving 50 cars. If the number 26 car of the field of 50 is .85 under or quicker = mineshaft.


FS_ cars and F/X cars are not the same. AHFS does not apply to F/X cars. That's why we need a kiss.
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Old 01-03-2016, 08:11 PM   #6
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This was my first year racing in ss. The first thing I don't understand is the fact that you have to beg for anything. Automatic factoring ? Why can't the NHRA mystery computer give hp back at the end of a year? They can doll it out, I would think if there is a combo out there RUNNING that the computer could then give some back. Just thinking out loud. I never went 850 under so it doesn't matter. Just a thought. I should have begged for some since I can't run 1 under or in some cases 1.30 or faster under like some run & nothing happens when they fender you. Great racing there....
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It does if you qualify.
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Old 01-04-2016, 12:37 AM   #8
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This was my first year racing in ss. The first thing I don't understand is the fact that you have to beg for anything. Automatic factoring ? Why can't the NHRA mystery computer give hp back at the end of a year? They can doll it out, I would think if there is a combo out there RUNNING that the computer could then give some back. Just thinking out loud. I never went 850 under so it doesn't matter. Just a thought. I should have begged for some since I can't run 1 under or in some cases 1.30 or faster under like some run & nothing happens when they fender you. Great racing there....
Tommy, why would you need horsepower off your combination? Wasn't there an identical combination as yours that could have run a 1.15 under et in the class final of SS/JA? If he can do it, doesn't that give you the indication that the potential of your combination is very good?
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