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Old 10-10-2013, 07:10 PM   #1
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Here is my Engine with a Secret Velocity Stack..

Can you identify it?

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I use to remember getting those for the LT1s Dan at my local plumbing supply store. Always got a funny look when you told them what it was for.
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Old 10-10-2013, 11:10 PM   #2
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Here is my Engine with a Secret Velocity Stack..

Can you identify it?

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SWEET! I have one of those in my kitchen right now! Wonder if momma will miss it?? LOL! How much was that worth Dan? As quirky as these things seem I wouldn't be surprised if it picked you up a dime.
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:49 PM   #3
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Dan, I'm not trying to toss any "garbage" your way, but is that legal in Pure Stock? In the past traditional stockers have had "non-OEM style" air filter bases questioned by Tech (at NHRA events at least), and I would think Pure Stocker rules would be even more restrictive. Don't shoot the messenger; just trying to avoid a spike in the sale of garbage disposal parts followed by a bunch of Pure Stockers being told to take them off.
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Old 10-10-2013, 12:26 PM   #4
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Morning Russell,

I am the guy building the 93 Z-28. Just getting started as a matter of fact. Bought the car from a local guy who was already racing it in no-e here at home. All it has is a mail order chip in it. According to Jim Woods it is a natural C/PS although I plan on dropping down to D. I don't think I could get it light enough to really be a factor in B. As it sits its 100 lbs over for D mainly due to the nut behind the wheel, me. When my son takes over we will be good for C. This car is for him when he is done with JR's next season. I just bought an FTI 3800 stall converter and lock-up eliminator kit (Sorry Dan. Good friends w/ Greg and Troy Williams @ FTI and they made me a killer deal). Lock-up removes 6 lbs of rotating mass from the converter and this car wont see much if any street time. I was looking for more stall but with a max power @ around 5500 more than one guy felt like it would be to close to power levels on the shift fall back. I plan on putting in 4.10 gears and have some headers coming. I will use some small flowmasters and put dumps under the car. This should make a tad bit more power but more importantly cuts 50 lbs of junk removing the X pipe/cats/over the rear exhaust. The car runs 9.oh's and teens in the eigth right now so I need 7 tenths just to play since D has an 8.50 index. Hoping to make the IHRA race in Lakeland in a couple weeks but time is running low and I am busy as a 1 armed paper hanger. Plan on getting converter in and all a/c heater stuff out next week. I'll keep you posted and look forward to checking out your build.
No Problem Kenny:
Having drivability issues with mine.
Want to make Lakeland too by taking the Auto Train to Sanford.

You made the better choice.
There are a whole lot of local guys my converter would work better for.
FWIW.. with a IHRA approves cam you could have gone to 4200 stall.
However if the 3800 stall if it flashes to 4600 you will be fine..

Dan

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Old 10-10-2013, 12:33 PM   #5
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B/PS? Who in the world would want to run that?

Contact Mark Kent at GM about the cam specs. IHRA didn't have any for our car so we emailed him and he was kind enough to send us the OEM #s. I then sent those to Mike Baker and he approved the car for Pure Stock. Then gave those numbers to Bullet and they ground us a nice cam. With changing the cam and adding 1 & 7/8" headers we picked up more than 5 tenths.

Also, don't be afraid to put a converter and gear in it. We have a Yank SS4000 because I found one almost new for about half of what they cost. It's a great converter but it's a street converter. When I get ambitious I'm going to try to get it loosened up to 5000. We also put a 3.90 gear in the car because it was a DD at the time. They only go to a 4.10 on the gear for these cars and I wish I had that. We run a 28" tire. I believe with a 5000 TC and a 4.10 gear I could pick up even more. If I had an LT1 car (and I have had those) I wouldn't hesitate going with a 5000 converter and a 4.56 gear with a 28" tire.

Where are you located?

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Old 10-10-2013, 01:17 PM   #6
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Thanks for the information. Would you still go with a 5000 converter if the engine redline is 5700? I know there is more to it than say a 5000 stall. We used to run 5200 8" converters in j/sa firebird with a 305. I guess it was no different back then! I totally agree with the gearing and that high of a stall.
When you got the camshaft from Bullet, What was different about it? Duration? CL? Oh yea, I'm in ohio.

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Thanks for the information. Would you still go with a 5000 converter if the engine redline is 5700? I know there is more to it than say a 5000 stall. We used to run 5200 8" converters in j/sa firebird with a 305. I guess it was no different back then! I totally agree with the gearing and that high of a stall.
When you got the camshaft from Bullet, What was different about it? Duration? CL? Oh yea, I'm in ohio.
This isn't a Russell as in the Gary Russell family from East Sparta is it?

I'd have to look at my cam card but the lift and duration were the same as stock and I do recall the CL being different. I can honestly say with the new cam down low the car is a different animal. Our best 60' (with "only" the 3.90 gear and a DOT drag radial) is 1.53 in poor DA with a crappy prepped track. When you call Bullet ask for their Stock Eliminator cam guy John. And yes, they'll get it to run past 5700 so I would go with that loose of a stall.

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B/PS? Who in the world would want to run that?

Contact Mark Kent at GM about the cam specs. IHRA didn't have any for our car so we emailed him and he was kind enough to send us the OEM #s. I then sent those to Mike Baker and he approved the car for Pure Stock. Then gave those numbers to Bullet and they ground us a nice cam. With changing the cam and adding 1 & 7/8" headers we picked up more than 5 tenths.

Also, don't be afraid to put a converter and gear in it. We have a Yank SS4000 because I found one almost new for about half of what they cost. It's a great converter but it's a street converter. When I get ambitious I'm going to try to get it loosened up to 5000. We also put a 3.90 gear in the car because it was a DD at the time. They only go to a 4.10 on the gear for these cars and I wish I had that. We run a 28" tire. I believe with a 5000 TC and a 4.10 gear I could pick up even more. If I had an LT1 car (and I have had those) I wouldn't hesitate going with a 5000 converter and a 4.56 gear with a 28" tire.

Where are you located?

Scott
1/2 a second from a cam and headers is AWESOME!!! What is your car rated at for hp Scott? What et's and mph do you run. I have a bud with a late model LS1 vette he built into an NHRA legal stocker with mainly just bolt ons. Runs quite a bit under the index. REALLY peaves the stocker guys when he drives it into the racetrack and goes waayyy under and goes rounds.
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1/2 a second from a cam and headers is AWESOME!!! What is your car rated at for hp Scott? What et's and mph do you run. I have a bud with a late model LS1 vette he built into an NHRA legal stocker with mainly just bolt ons. Runs quite a bit under the index. REALLY peaves the stocker guys when he drives it into the racetrack and goes waayyy under and goes rounds.
350 is the factory HP and I believe it's at 345 now with NHRA/IHRA. At one time recently I think it was 340. The AFHS is very, very favorable in the C5. Our best ET is 11.74 @113 on a 12.45 index. That was at about 2000' DA and 150 lbs. heavy for B. My wife has been putting runs on the car and she is 140 lbs. lighter than me. I know in good air with her in the car it will run in the 50s and 60' 1.4x. Our goal is to be 1 second under and I don't think we are far from there in good air and on a properly prepped track.

Is Jeremy Preston who you're speaking of? We still have AC, legal plates, etc. on ours and could easily drive it out the gate and home if needed.

Scott

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