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Old 07-25-2013, 12:13 PM   #1
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Joe is your Toter registered as a truck or an RV ??????....I have a DOT inspection site right around the corner from my shop...had them look at my RV and trailer registration 4 years ago and was told ..no CDL required even though it has air brakes...but he says add the trailer on the back and I would need DOT numbers, log book, safety equipment....etc....not sure if the NY laws have changed since then....gonna have to take a walk over and have them check Reg again
Joe,it is registered as a motorhome. the issue here was the cars in the trailer
the trooper told me she also pulls over horse trailers if they are race horses
then a cdl is required.The way she explained it to me if the trailer was empty
or if i was driving with no trailer cdl not required.
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:22 PM   #2
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Several years ago, I had checked into whether I needed a cdl. At the time that I checked, even though I race and attempt to win money, as long as I am claiming the money's that I win and not writing off any of the expences, no cdl was required. Now it I were to write off the expences, that changed it to me running it as a business and a cdl was required. Don't know if anything has changed since then, but that is what I had found out at the time. Per federal regulations which trump state requlations.
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:31 PM   #3
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For the life of me I cannot understand why our National Organization with their bevy of legal staffers on the board will not pitch in and lobby or address this situation. They could work with state tourism boards, and legislatures to exempt NHRA members from excess trooper rules interpretations

Now that would be a member benefit, and they can keep the patch and pin

They could print out a pamphlet (like fan guide) with state regs that we all could carry with us and possibly a help line one could call when harrassed

ya think?

by the way, we were stopped west of Des Moines a couple of years ago for trailer search, interrogation, etc.....back home researched with State Patrol and yes we could demand a warrant, but best to be polite, co-operate and move on was advice

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Old 07-25-2013, 12:35 PM   #4
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Joe Lisa, that trooper is absolutely wrong based on DOT reg 390 (f)(3) which specifically allows boats, horse trailer, race cars as exempt from DOT even if money is involved. I will try to post that section. It's small, but it is part of the regs. Now if your stuff is titled in a company name, you are DOT. All my stuff is in my personal name. Excuse me; it is 390.3(f)(3) and I have it in my hand. Someone tell me how to get from a scanner to this channel and I will post it.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:36 PM   #5
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For the life of me I cannot understand why our National Organization with their bevy of legal staffers on the board will not pitch in and lobby or address this situation. They could work with state tourism boards, and legislatures to exempt NHRA members from excess trooper rules interpretations

Now that would be a member benefit, and they can keep the patch and pin

They could print out a pamphlet (like fan guide) with state regs that we all could carry with us and possibly a help line one could call when harrassed

ya think?

by the way, we were stopped west of Des Moines a couple of years ago for trailer search, interrogation, etc.....back home researched with State Patrol and yes we could demand a warrant, but best to be polite, co-operate and move on was advice
This is something xHRA and other racing bodies should be doing !

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