Under the index for under a grand!

Billy Nees · 04-26-2013, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

Pontiacchuck asked 3 days ago...So what's the big secret here...how quick was the ET, how fast was the MPH? And how far under did it go? Unless I'm missing something here, that was the point of it all.

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TGould · 04-26-2013, 04:21 PM

Hey Billy, take out .06-.08 for the head wind and correct the ET to sea level and your at or under the NHRA index. Now, for a certain down hill NE sea level track and a few of those 00 bulbs.

Tom

cicero819 · 04-26-2013, 04:21 PM

Billy great job, wow RT is money in the bank! Keep it up, someone must have a 12 bolts lying and gathering dust somewhere with a set of 5:13, come on people look in your backyard under the wood pile and send it to Billy! Claude

Claude

MikeMoller · 04-29-2013, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

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Thanks for all three!

Billy Nees · 05-07-2013, 10:38 AM

Well, this past weekend was rather humbling to say the least. Saturday I went to Mason-Dixon to get some runs on a "fast" track and was greeted by a killer, nonstop headwind that went on all day. To make the long, painful story short, I went a best of a 15.03 at just under 88 MPH. That was after trying a Y-pipe(hated it), retarding the cam(hated it but it did help the MPH) and advancing the cam(best ETs but lost MPH).
I went back to "The Beav" on Sunday and went mid to high teens all day with a best of 15.150 at 87.58 and a 2.05 60'. It still wants to be leaner and it still wants more timing than I think that it should need. The only other thing I did was do away with the metering rods which seemed to clean it up a bit.
I'm now at a point where I think that I'm just tuning around a problem and I'm sorry to say that the problem is my $80 converter. It's just too heavy and too tight even for the torquey 301. In low gear, leaving at an idle it will only stall to about 2200 RPM and when it shifts it is "staggering" the motor. I'll be doing a little detective work and making some phone calls to try and find something that won't "kill" the budget. I'll be reporting in.

Michael Beard · 05-07-2013, 11:45 AM

I'm surprised you haven't cut the thing apart and started bending fins with a pair of vice grips yet.

WWBD (What Would Billy Do?)

I've made more gains tuning by actual time slip results than what something "should" want. If it likes it, it likes it, as long as it's not destroying itself.

Mark Yacavone · 05-07-2013, 02:16 PM

Billy, I'll bet that car would 60' better with a stock camshaft with the converter you got. Of course you'll give it all up on the other end.
I got my 79 Lemans 301 /4bbl running and moving around..Stock cam, 3.08 posi , 2.74 low...It'll burn rubber all the way through 1st gear.
That's with a GN Buick 2050 stall, lockup 12 ".
Let me look around and see what I have for parts for a 9" .
How much do we have in "the bank"?

BTW, 75 jets in my original Dual Jet...The Qjet likes that size too.

Daran Summerton · 05-09-2013, 07:38 AM

I might like to try a 9" as well Mark

77 350 Cutlass
N/SA

I'm done with the 455 combo

Rick Unterseh · 05-09-2013, 10:09 AM

Me too Mark !!!! that's three you need to build, and I can come pick mine up.

Daran Summerton · 05-14-2013, 07:16 AM

How bout No Hop Bars?

04-26-2013, 04:21 PM	#2
TGould Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Beaufort,SC Posts: 145 Likes: 18 Liked 32 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Under the index for under a grand! Hey Billy, take out .06-.08 for the head wind and correct the ET to sea level and your at or under the NHRA index. Now, for a certain down hill NE sea level track and a few of those 00 bulbs. Tom

04-26-2013, 04:21 PM	#3
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,087 Likes: 31 Liked 70 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Under the index for under a grand! Billy great job, wow RT is money in the bank! Keep it up, someone must have a 12 bolts lying and gathering dust somewhere with a set of 5:13, come on people look in your backyard under the wood pile and send it to Billy! Claude Claude

05-07-2013, 10:38 AM	#5
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,506 Likes: 3,613 Liked 7,865 Times in 1,750 Posts	Re: Under the index for under a grand! Well, this past weekend was rather humbling to say the least. Saturday I went to Mason-Dixon to get some runs on a "fast" track and was greeted by a killer, nonstop headwind that went on all day. To make the long, painful story short, I went a best of a 15.03 at just under 88 MPH. That was after trying a Y-pipe(hated it), retarding the cam(hated it but it did help the MPH) and advancing the cam(best ETs but lost MPH). I went back to "The Beav" on Sunday and went mid to high teens all day with a best of 15.150 at 87.58 and a 2.05 60'. It still wants to be leaner and it still wants more timing than I think that it should need. The only other thing I did was do away with the metering rods which seemed to clean it up a bit. I'm now at a point where I think that I'm just tuning around a problem and I'm sorry to say that the problem is my $80 converter. It's just too heavy and too tight even for the torquey 301. In low gear, leaving at an idle it will only stall to about 2200 RPM and when it shifts it is "staggering" the motor. I'll be doing a little detective work and making some phone calls to try and find something that won't "kill" the budget. I'll be reporting in. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

05-07-2013, 11:45 AM	#6
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Under the index for under a grand! I'm surprised you haven't cut the thing apart and started bending fins with a pair of vice grips yet. WWBD (What Would Billy Do?) I've made more gains tuning by actual time slip results than what something "should" want. If it likes it, it likes it, as long as it's not destroying itself. __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

05-07-2013, 02:16 PM	#7
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,836 Likes: 2,930 Liked 5,148 Times in 1,965 Posts	Re: Under the index for under a grand! Billy, I'll bet that car would 60' better with a stock camshaft with the converter you got. Of course you'll give it all up on the other end. I got my 79 Lemans 301 /4bbl running and moving around..Stock cam, 3.08 posi , 2.74 low...It'll burn rubber all the way through 1st gear. That's with a GN Buick 2050 stall, lockup 12 ". Let me look around and see what I have for parts for a 9" . How much do we have in "the bank"? BTW, 75 jets in my original Dual Jet...The Qjet likes that size too. __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

05-09-2013, 07:38 AM	#8
Daran Summerton Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas nv Posts: 600 Likes: 18 Liked 66 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Under the index for under a grand! I might like to try a 9" as well Mark 77 350 Cutlass N/SA I'm done with the 455 combo __________________ 72 cutlass

05-09-2013, 10:09 AM	#9
Rick Unterseh Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 133 Likes: 3 Liked 31 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Under the index for under a grand! Me too Mark !!!! that's three you need to build, and I can come pick mine up. __________________ Rick Unterseh O/SA P/SA

05-14-2013, 07:16 AM	#10
Daran Summerton Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas nv Posts: 600 Likes: 18 Liked 66 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Under the index for under a grand! How bout No Hop Bars? __________________ 72 cutlass