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Old 12-05-2012, 02:12 PM   #1
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Bruce, just spend $30,000 on your car in the right place, then it will be fast. I bet if you call Jeff Taylor and spend the money you could run with 95% of all b/sa cars in the county. The problem is most racers don't want to spend the big money it takes to run fast. They just want to bitc$ about how fast everyone else is. It costs money to run fast in the top classes, always has always will.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:18 PM   #2
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Bruce, just spend $30,000 on your car in the right place then it will be fast. I bet if you call Jeff Taylor and spend the money you could run with 95% of all b/sa cars in the county. The problem is most races don't want to spend the big money it takes to run fast. They just want to bitc$ about how fast everyone else is. It costs money to run fast in the top classes, always has always will.
The money I spend is money I have earned. I don't rely on family to support my racing. Secondly this discussion is about nhra giving the OEM's bogus HP numbers.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:05 PM   #3
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Bruce last time I checked I pay my own bills to. Yes I do race with family but everyone in our operation pulls there own weight. Like most family operations. My question to you is if you spent the money to run fast, your not much slower then newer cars in your class. I don't see guys like Kyle Ratcliff ( who has a 15 year old combo) who won class at INDY in C/SA bitc$ing. O that's right there to busy actually working on there car trying to improve it.

Mark your right Kevin Z has been beat heads up by a under factored 1967 400 Pontiac. So what dose he care if is old or new? Under factored is under factored new or old.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:18 PM   #4
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Bruce last time I checked I pay my own bills to. Yes I do race with family but everyone in our operation pulls there own weight. Like most family operations. My question to you is if you spent the money to run fast, your not much slower then newer cars in your class. I don't see guys like Kyle Ratcliff ( who has a 15 year old combo) who won class at INDY in C/SA bitc$ing. O that's right there to busy actually working on there car trying to improve it.
Charlie you need to get our here and correct a widely held belief that your father is paying all the bills. My car is a natural AA car and there is no amount of spending that can make up for the bogus gifts that nhra handed out to the OEM's.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:19 PM   #5
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Charlie came up to me at the fuel check and gave me a big ole hug. Nearly brings a tear to my eye as I reflect back.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:33 PM   #6
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:39 PM   #7
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Plus, you may be furry, but Charlie is better for the colder weather.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:18 PM   #8
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Bruce I work full time as a reginal sale manager for THI Corp out of Ann Arbor Mi which makes pick up truck accessories like bedrugs and tonnos. I do help my dad on our family farm with whatever time I have left and maybe race cars now and then if Karle doesn't have other plans for me.

That is my point Andrews car is 30 years old and your car is one of the fastest D/SA cars in the country. Because you work on it and spend money in the right places and with the right people.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:35 PM   #9
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My question to you is if you spent the money to run fast, your not much slower then newer cars in your class. I don't see guys like Kyle Ratcliff ( who has a 15 year old combo) who won class at INDY in C/SA bitc$ing. O that's right there to busy actually working on there car trying to improve it.
I bitch and work on my car in relatively equal amounts. I find it makes for a pretty good balance.
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:22 PM   #10
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There is really only one reason to continue this thread, and thats to show dissatisfaction to NHRA and the Manufacturers with there current and proposed HP ratings to come. I say all old car owners, man up, lets hear what you really think. I am writing on this forum not to convince new car owners that im correct, but to convince NHRA and the Manufacturers that they should do the right thing. Im betting that NHRA and the Manufacturers are reading this thread, our voices are heard.
Writing on an Internet forum is not going to do anything about the situation. The only way for changes is to take the proposals, complaints, petitions, meetings to the people that can do something about it. I seriously doubt the top NHRA brass and advisors are sitting around reading Internet forums(although classracer.com is good) saying "you know what? This guy ---(insert name)--- really has a good idea, ---(insert name)--- really brought X, Y, Z to our attention."

I'm not saying everyone should be quiet about it. If its for venting purposes or even for some that feeds off Drama is one thing. But if a person really feels so strongly about it that it needs to be changed then it needs to be adressed with the people that can actually do something about it. Otherwise it is just a lot of huffing/puffing and waisted energy unless it makes a person feel better by getting it off their chest.
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