Sedan Deliveries

Wayne W · 11-04-2012, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie A

Found this on the HAMB.
I NEVER knew Pontiac built a sedan delivery.

It's a Canadian Pontiac (Chevrolet) and would have been 283 powered like this 57.

And under the hood was probably a 220 hp 283 Pontiac engine . Here's an underhood pic of a 57.

Here's a 56.

ss wannabee · 11-04-2012, 01:17 AM

Wow, these are certainly "firsts" for me!

One item I noticed missing in the powertrain lineup is the "base" V-8 engine for '57
here in the States, the 265/162 hp 2-bbl.

Believe it was the combo in the Neja Bros. wagon....

Rich Biebel · 11-04-2012, 08:13 AM

I never knew about those Canadian Pontiac sedan deliveries either...

The Pontiac Safari wagons were pretty std wagons and they did build some in '57 that were similar to a Chevy Nomads......I used to see one in my town and wanted to buy it to make into a tow vehicle.

My first car was a hand me down 55 Pontiac.....

Wayne W · 11-04-2012, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

I never knew about those Canadian Pontiac sedan deliveries either...

The Pontiac Safari wagons were pretty std wagons and they did build some in '57 that were similar to a Chevy Nomads......I used to see one in my town and wanted to buy it to make into a tow vehicle.

My first car was a hand me down 55 Pontiac.....

Rich Biebel · 11-04-2012, 11:41 AM

This must be where the idea of putting a "hydro" behind a Chevy in a sedan delivery came from originally. Ads like that kind of linked GMC with passenger type cars.....and engines and transmissions got interchanged...

I can recall the logic when me and my racing partner first built our '57 Chevy sedan delivery in about 1965.....Sedan deliveries were "trucks"......Add a truck trans behind a Chevy HP engine.......must be legal and NHRA OK'ed it for a few years........Just like the over the counter stuff they also allowed....and 4 speeds in cars that never came with them....

GMC trucks mixed and matched engines and transmissions....

We had a '58 or '59 GMC ramp truck that we built from one we found laying dormant in the backyard of a truck shop.....We re-built this truck in 1969 to haul our Chevy II stocker...

It had a Pontiac engine in it......330 something cubic inch sidedraft 2 barrel with a manual trans.....

I drove that old tanker to a lot of tracks in 1970-1971....The engine was pretty strong. after I swapped a new style carb on it.....Never any problem with it.....

Wayne W · 11-04-2012, 12:16 PM

Lots a neat stuff out there. You should have tried getting an original 1966 Malibu SS 283 car through tech. They tried telling me SS cars were all Big Block powered.

In 1976 Larry Lombardo took a second look, I guess he had never saw one.

Charlie A · 11-04-2012, 12:18 PM

The Hydro was allowed because it was available in the trucks and commercial Chevys and the sedan delivery was marketed as a commercial vehicle.

Crossing the boundries between production "passenger" engines available and the "commercial vehicle" transmission made for some crazy combinations in the sedan deliveries.

Now that was a rule stretcher idea that worked......for a while.

Fred Rice · 11-04-2012, 05:20 PM

Rich Biebel · 11-04-2012, 06:53 PM

http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=4318

I don't know how to post the picture directly....

Indy 1966.......
I/SA r/up.......Not bad for two teenagers

Take note of the rear windows.......
It was a NJ Bell Telephone service truck.....
It had to have rear windows to be allowed to drive on the NJ Parkway.....
Even today NO commercial vehicles are allowed to drive on some roads in this area.
Some Parkways in New York....

Charlie A · 11-04-2012, 09:28 PM

Here ya go:

11-04-2012, 01:17 AM	#2
ss wannabee Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 663 Likes: 0 Liked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Sedan Deliveries Wow, these are certainly "firsts" for me! One item I noticed missing in the powertrain lineup is the "base" V-8 engine for '57 here in the States, the 265/162 hp 2-bbl. Believe it was the combo in the Neja Bros. wagon....

11-04-2012, 08:13 AM	#3
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,314 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: Sedan Deliveries I never knew about those Canadian Pontiac sedan deliveries either... The Pontiac Safari wagons were pretty std wagons and they did build some in '57 that were similar to a Chevy Nomads......I used to see one in my town and wanted to buy it to make into a tow vehicle. My first car was a hand me down 55 Pontiac..... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

11-04-2012, 11:41 AM	#5
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,314 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: Sedan Deliveries This must be where the idea of putting a "hydro" behind a Chevy in a sedan delivery came from originally. Ads like that kind of linked GMC with passenger type cars.....and engines and transmissions got interchanged... I can recall the logic when me and my racing partner first built our '57 Chevy sedan delivery in about 1965.....Sedan deliveries were "trucks"......Add a truck trans behind a Chevy HP engine.......must be legal and NHRA OK'ed it for a few years........Just like the over the counter stuff they also allowed....and 4 speeds in cars that never came with them.... GMC trucks mixed and matched engines and transmissions.... We had a '58 or '59 GMC ramp truck that we built from one we found laying dormant in the backyard of a truck shop.....We re-built this truck in 1969 to haul our Chevy II stocker... It had a Pontiac engine in it......330 something cubic inch sidedraft 2 barrel with a manual trans..... I drove that old tanker to a lot of tracks in 1970-1971....The engine was pretty strong. after I swapped a new style carb on it.....Never any problem with it..... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R Last edited by Rich Biebel; 11-04-2012 at 11:44 AM.

11-04-2012, 12:16 PM	#6
Wayne W Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 91 Likes: 8 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: Sedan Deliveries Lots a neat stuff out there. You should have tried getting an original 1966 Malibu SS 283 car through tech. They tried telling me SS cars were all Big Block powered. In 1976 Larry Lombardo took a second look, I guess he had never saw one.

11-04-2012, 12:18 PM	#7
Charlie A VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 2,483 Likes: 68 Liked 87 Times in 63 Posts	Re: Sedan Deliveries The Hydro was allowed because it was available in the trucks and commercial Chevys and the sedan delivery was marketed as a commercial vehicle. Crossing the boundries between production "passenger" engines available and the "commercial vehicle" transmission made for some crazy combinations in the sedan deliveries. Now that was a rule stretcher idea that worked......for a while. Last edited by Charlie A; 11-04-2012 at 12:21 PM.

11-04-2012, 05:20 PM	#8
Fred Rice Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cary, NC & Lake Gaston, Va. Posts: 24 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Sedan Deliveries

11-04-2012, 06:53 PM	#9
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,314 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: Sedan Deliveries http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=4318 I don't know how to post the picture directly.... Indy 1966....... I/SA r/up.......Not bad for two teenagers Take note of the rear windows....... It was a NJ Bell Telephone service truck..... It had to have rear windows to be allowed to drive on the NJ Parkway..... Even today NO commercial vehicles are allowed to drive on some roads in this area. Some Parkways in New York.... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R Last edited by Rich Biebel; 11-04-2012 at 07:01 PM.

11-04-2012, 09:28 PM	#10
Charlie A VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 2,483 Likes: 68 Liked 87 Times in 63 Posts	Re: Sedan Deliveries Here ya go: